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#27710 - 05/20/04 07:59 PM Being equipped - in warm weather
Craig Offline

Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
Since warmer weather has arrived on the East Coast, I don't have as many coat pockets in which to stow my EDC gear.

My field coat cannot be worn now. It's simply too warm. My wonderful tropical flight jacket does not have loads of pockets.

How are you experienced folks carrying your gear, when you may be wearing only shorts, a T-shirt, and maybe footwear?

#27711 - 05/20/04 08:23 PM Re: Being equipped - in warm weather
X-ray Dave Offline

Registered: 11/11/03
Posts: 572
Loc: Nevada
I've used a waist pack for years. Switched to the Maxpedtion
Proteus , I love it, the belt is is stiff enough to support the weight and not stress my back. I can carry all my EDC stuff and have room left for a scanner and accessories. Plenty of space and well organized. When I need more space I go with a multi pocket vest for more pockets. There are all types/sizes of waist packs and belt pouches. Maxpedition makes different sizes of pouches designed to carry stuff on your belt. They look well thought out. You can see them at www.maxpedition.com or www.countycomm.com.

#27712 - 05/20/04 08:42 PM Re: Being equipped - in warm weather
Paul810 Offline

Registered: 03/02/03
Posts: 1428
Loc: NJ, USA
Here is how i'm equipped:
In my left front pocket I have my keys which have on them a Fox40 whistle (modded like Dougs), a BSA Hotspark, a Reeve coil of paracord, and I made sure one of my keys is made of steel so I can spark the hotspark. I also have my LG VX6000 camera phone in that pocket. Clipped to the pocket is my Leatherman sideclip.

In my right pocket I have my wallet which has a swiss card lite (with the knife modded so I can use it as a spearpoint or extend the handle), an FBI money clip made of brass coated steel, a folded up piece of tinfoil and foil tape, a fresnel lense, a survival info card, and my most used lock pick. Also in that pocket is my badge wallet which has a tinder card (take a piece of vasiline impregnated cotten, stick it between two sheets of paper and laminate it to card size). It also has a small version of a "shove it" tool which can be be used to strike flint or can be sharpened into a knife. Clipped to the right pocket is my Benchmade 921-BLK.

In my watch pocket I have my perminant match. Sometimes also with my Benchmade 3100.

Im my back pockets are two bandannas.

My belt is a dockers leather money belt with a zippered compartment, inside is a length of paracord, a bandaid, an alcohol pad, and an extra house key.
Hanging off my belt is an innova x5 LED flashlight and sometimes my Leatherman Tool Adapter kit.

I feel with what I carry I am pretty prepared and it doesn't weigh me down too much <img src="images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />.

#27713 - 05/20/04 10:27 PM Re: Being equipped - in warm weather
groo Offline

Registered: 11/02/03
Posts: 722
Loc: Florida
Like Paul810, my stuff is distributed. I'm trying to carry as much as I can while looking like I'm carrying nothing. So no waist packs, no sheaths, no clips, nada. It's not that I think they're a bad idea, I just don't want to attract attention.

I wear one of these (Black Hawk Ankle Pouch) on and off. It's comfortable, stays put, and you can put a reasonable amount of stuff in it: I only use it for stuff I want to have with me, but won't need unless there's a problem.

One trick that's probably too obvious to mention... You can put more things in your pockets if you'll take the time to figure out what "goes together" and what doesn't. Some items will fit together (and take up less room) in a pocket than others. I've been fine tuning my EDC for a while now, and I'm pretty happy.

I like the money belt idea. And I think the tinder card is a really interesting idea.

#27714 - 05/20/04 11:22 PM Re: Being equipped - in warm weather
NY RAT Offline

Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 256
Loc: brooklyn, ny
ok but my question is what do you do when wearing shorts on those hot killer days?
assuming that you dont own those cargo type shorts.
been gone so long im glad to be back

#27715 - 05/21/04 12:22 AM Re: Being equipped - in warm weather
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
Why not find a surplus musette style bag- basically a small, over the shoulder purse? www.majorsurplusnsurvival.com carries several.

#27716 - 05/21/04 12:21 PM Re: Being equipped - in warm weather


I live in a semi-desertic place and in summer I really can't endure any other clothing than loose shorts and a tank top. When hiking in really hot weather (over 100°F in the shade), hydration becomes a real issue, and lots of water weighs... a lot... and becomes uncomfortable to carry in a waist bag (for me, they're ok up to 8-10 pounds, no more, while I often carry a gallon of water at least).

But... when it's really really hot, backpacks get in the way of sweat evaporation. You get your back all wet, and you can't cool down as efficiently. Thus most of the time I'm wearing a slim camel-back type backpack alongside with a waist bag/pouch of some sort. This way I get the most carrying comfort for my water, and the rest of my gear doesn't get in the way of evaporation.

For EDC or for short hikes, a small leather belt pouch (home made) carries my stuff. About 6x6x2 inches.

Right now, it's equipped with a PSK, and it contains:
- Leatherman Wave
- Waterproof platic vial with 7-8 cotton balls and vaseline
- 20 feet of genuine G.I. paracord
- Brightly colored, transparent, non-childproof, adjustable, non-piezo-electric butane lighter
- Small sharpening steel
- Swedish army fire steel
- Micro mag lite (with LED mod) and extra AAA cell
- Small tweezers (I live in tick-land...)
- Aluminum whistle (no moving parts)
- A small 5ml bottle of 10% betadine (iodine solution, for water or wound disinfection)
- A large ziploc bag (storing/scooping/collecting water, etc.)
- Some homeopathic stuff: Arnica Montana (5CH - against swelling and pain on closed muskulo-skeletal trauma) and some stuff against hay fever (Pollens 30CH and Sabadilla Officinarum 5CH).

I've still got some spare room in the pouch for something else I'd need (kleenexes, pack of smokes, sling whatever).

When hiking, I'm always wearing a bandana (about 3 zillion possible uses for that!) and I'm navigating with my Suunto altimeter/compass/barometer/watch. Also add to that the EDC folder I'm choosing that day, and sometimes a Mora #1 around the neck (à la Mors Kochanski <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />).



#27717 - 05/21/04 04:30 PM Re: Being equipped - in warm weather

Registered: 12/09/02
Posts: 204
Loc: Long Island, New York
I don't like attracting attention, either. I'm able to carry everything in my pockets, as long as I have 4 of them. This shouldn't change even if I'm wearing shorts.

Left front pocket:
Business card sleeve which holds credit cards
Money clip

Right front pocket:
LED light

Right rear pocket:
PSK in zippered wallet
Inova X1
12' braided paracord

Left rear pocket:
Decoy wallet
Leatherman Wave

I hate wearing wristwatches, so I've got a Dakota Angler clipped on my belt loop. This also has a compass and red LED light built in. I've got pretty much everthing on me except for shelter. Something I'll have to work on.

#27718 - 05/21/04 09:06 PM Re: Being equipped - in warm weather
bountyhunter Offline

Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA

I don't know what kind of backpack you use, but I favor external frame type. They give you more breathing space between your back and your pack, and I like the ability to add stuff to the exterior of the pack on the frame (camera tripods, walking sticks, axes, machetes, ski's, ski poles, add infinitum.) and not feel the pack slumping over from the weight.

If you have an internally framed one or a rucksack that you carry on your back, one trick is to cut a car seat ventilator (those seat accessories with the spun steel or plastic coils used to allow air flow when sitting on plastic or leather car seats.) in half and attach it to that part of the pack resting on your back for better air circulation.

Good luck!


#27719 - 05/22/04 02:22 AM Re: Being equipped - in warm weather
MartinFocazio Offline


Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 2148
Loc: Bucks County PA
My Eagle Creek "Guide Bag" is a wonderful bag that carries all my stuff quite well!
I drag it around with me in the summer.

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