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#272197 - 10/14/14 01:36 PM Re: ammo choice [Re: Phaedrus]
Deathwind Offline
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I agree Phaedrus.
carry what I have used and what I know works. But lets be honest, ANY round will punch holes n a human body. Just keep pulling the trigger till your target goes down. That's what we were taught. The lawyers and courts and shooting review boards can work t out later.
You're also right about the Samurai. I know someone who has a nine body blade. t's a bit chilling even seeing that thing.

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#272217 - 10/14/14 05:09 PM Re: ammo choice [Re: Russ]
wileycoyote Offline
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Originally Posted By: Russ
The problem I have with the Marshall & Sanow database is that it doesn't make any allowance for why a particular bullet had a one-shot stop, or rather why a particular bad guy stopped after being shot once. Did he stop because of severe physical trauma and simply could not continue, or did he stop due to a low pain threshold and non-life threatening hit to the arm that made him retreat? M&S classify both of those instances equally as a one-shot stop.

It may be worthwhile to read a bit about Dr. Martin L. Fackler (retired Colonel in the US Army's Medical Corps) before dismissing his work as that of a "jello-junkie". But that's just my opinion...


"dismissing"? i think not. unlike some i'm not a fanboy of either side.

while neither group has THE answer, both have their points. all i indicated was that in the end i personally have a bit more faith in the statical data of tens of thousands of street shootings than in gelatin/lab testing.

and as i noted, it was ayoob who called them "jello-junkies", who was also equally tongue-in-cheek with m&s as "morgue-monsters".

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