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#269798 - 05/10/14 06:44 PM Climate Chaos - was global warming
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I'm experiencing great intensities and swing in the weather...and starting to plan for it.

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#269803 - 05/10/14 07:33 PM Re: Climate Chaos - was global warming [Re: TeacherRO]
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The Earth warms, the Earth cools, weather IS -- expect it. There's a quote from the 1984 movie version of "Dune":
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...Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken...
Perhaps climate change has something to do with species evolution -- change or die off. It seems the same group who have been pushing evolution over creation are the same folks who fear climate change and that's a little counter to what I'd have expected from them. Don't fear the change, embrace it.

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#269805 - 05/10/14 09:02 PM Re: Climate Chaos - was global warming [Re: Russ]
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Originally Posted By: Russ
It seems the same group who have been pushing evolution over creation are the same folks who fear climate change and that's a little counter to what I'd have expected from them. Don't fear the change, embrace it.
I don't "push" evolution or climate change. I'm a scientist, both by training and inclination. I go where the data takes me. And the data supporting both evolution and anthropogenic climate change is very robust. Other's may choose to ignore or in some cases deliberately distort the implications of that data, but that is their problem, not mine.

Change happens. Mitigate undesirable change if possible. In any case, prepare for change.
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#269810 - 05/10/14 11:30 PM Re: Climate Chaos - was global warming [Re: AKSAR]
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Climate change does happen, the Earth has warmed and cooled numerous times just in the past few thousand years. I just can't buy the anthropogenic adjective.

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#269820 - 05/11/14 09:27 AM Re: Climate Chaos - was global warming [Re: TeacherRO]
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I think it's pretty settled science by now. Pity it has become politicized. Dealing with the change is going to be a big survival issue in years to come, on an individual level and for us as a species.
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#269829 - 05/11/14 05:28 PM Re: Climate Chaos - was global warming [Re: TeacherRO]
Arney Offline
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Originally Posted By: TeacherRO
I'm experiencing great intensities and swing in the weather...and starting to plan for it.

It's interesting to note that people are even saying that they notice consistent changes in the weather and climate.

It wasn't all that long ago that the timeline was framed in terms "think of your grandchildren" and we thought we still had all the time in the world to decide what to do before we started noticing any changes.

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#269832 - 05/11/14 06:56 PM Re: Climate Chaos - was global warming [Re: TeacherRO]
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So what kind of preparation or planning have you been doing?

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#269838 - 05/12/14 02:49 AM Re: Climate Chaos - was global warming [Re: Bingley]
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Originally Posted By: Bingley
So what kind of preparation or planning have you been doing?

The current long term solar forecasts I'm following suggest cooler than normal temperatures for the next 15 or so years so I planted some apple trees. They usually don't do well in Houston but I think we'll get enough chill hours moving forward.
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#269839 - 05/12/14 05:55 AM Re: Climate Chaos - was global warming [Re: TeacherRO]
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#269840 - 05/12/14 07:10 AM Re: Climate Chaos - was global warming [Re: Arney]
benjammin Offline
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It's not that things are changing, hot or cold, as much as people's perceptions are changing. Climate change is constant and inevitable. It is human perception that fails.
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