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#266119 - 12/28/13 12:21 AM USMC FILBE Bergen
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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An informative Video on how to assemble your 17lb USMC FILBE Bergen Back Pack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FemRN3y8Wv4

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#266144 - 12/28/13 05:50 PM Re: USMC FILBE Bergen [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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And as the intrepid Marine grunt attempts to assemble his overly complicated pack, the enemy sneaks up and brains him with a rock.

What ever happened to KISS?

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#266157 - 12/28/13 08:29 PM Re: USMC FILBE Bergen [Re: JBMat]
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The technique of putting on the 17lb empty pack was pretty unusual as well. grin Molle gone mad!

I thought an empty 6 1/2 pound Lowe Alpine Salient was pushing it for weight with its 1000D Cordura fabric. The FILBE is apparently only 500D Cordura

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkT2Rfggq5k

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#266159 - 12/28/13 10:14 PM Re: USMC FILBE Bergen [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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This just seems ridiculous in so many different ways.
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#266162 - 12/29/13 02:02 AM Re: USMC FILBE Bergen [Re: ]
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A lot of mil spec gear is quite decent; this is not one of those items.
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#266176 - 12/29/13 06:45 PM Re: USMC FILBE Bergen [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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I am someone who has been issued and used(and cursed at)an ALICE pack.If i can recall it wasn't 17 pounds empty an was a lot easier to use.How is it that whenever the military "improves" some thing it only gets heavier and harder to use.The ALICE was not comfortable to wear but did the job well.I can see that a lot of field grade improvements using the miracle trio(duct tape,zip ties and 550)done to this.That will only add more to it's weight.Some ultra light campers base load is thirty five pounds.This pack is half that with nothing in it.Military intelligence-SHEEEESH!

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#266178 - 12/29/13 08:49 PM Re: USMC FILBE Bergen [Re: boatman]
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Quote:
Some ultra light campers base load is thirty five pounds.


Actually lightweight campers have a base load at around 17 lbs. The ultralight crowd would be around 12 lbs. wink

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#266179 - 12/29/13 09:23 PM Re: USMC FILBE Bergen [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
clearwater Offline
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Originally Posted By: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor

Quote:
Some ultra light campers base load is thirty five pounds.


Actually lightweight campers have a base load at around 17 lbs. The ultralight crowd would be around 12 lbs. wink


Try under 5 lbs.
http://www.adventurealan.com/2-4_index.htm


Edited by clearwater (12/29/13 09:24 PM)

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#266181 - 12/30/13 01:12 AM Re: USMC FILBE Bergen [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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I stand corrected.But a pack that weighs seventeen pounds with nothing in it and needs a half hour video to assemble it.COME ON!I never heard of an Alice pack until it was handed to me in pieces.Twenty minutes later and some guess work and it was good to go.The ALICE is no lightweight pack an was designed around the Viet Nam conflict.Why couldn't the DOD go to any number of pack makers to get a lighter,cheaper and more ergonomic pack baffles me.I would rather wrap my stuff up in a shelter half and make a ROYCROFT frame from the shelter poles then add the heft of THAT pack.The average marine wears his body weight in gear in a combat zone.When will the Pentagon get a clue.SORRY,Rant Off....

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#266182 - 12/30/13 02:41 AM Re: USMC FILBE Bergen [Re: boatman]
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It's not just packs. I spent a winter in Korea and I really appreciated the dacron underwear sent to me. Iit was much better than anything available through military channels when you were on guard duty at 2 AM in frozen Chosen.

Still, some stuff is pretty good.
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