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#260487 - 05/11/13 10:41 PM Re: Dangerous critters [Re: gonewiththewind]
Bingley Offline
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Originally Posted By: Montanero
Get the dog's feet off of the ground. They have no leverage and will usually try to escape at that point. They will still bite, but you have more control this way.


How do you do this? For a sizable dog you'll probably need to wrap your arms around the torso (in the mount position, I guess). At that distance you'll probably have some bites at least. Am I on the right track?

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#260490 - 05/12/13 01:16 AM Re: Dangerous critters [Re: hikermor]
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Fighting a dog, you will be bitten, just like in a knife fight you are going to get cut. If it is a large dog, you will have to use both arms. But dogs don't like being lifted. They will try to escape. They may come back at you, but it will give you a little time. If you give them one arm and keep their teeth occupied, you may be able to lift the front of them up and get two feet off of the ground. They are vulnerable underneath. Kick, stab, hit, but make them hurt.

Most dogs are not attacking with killing intent, but it can still lead to that if it is too easy for them. Most animals, with the exception of large bears, will stop trying if you are a hard target and hurt them too much. I guess that would work for large bears too if you were big enough to be a threat.

The main point is to keep fighting the dog, don't turn and run. He will outrun you. Like they teach for black bears and mountain lions, face them, and slowly back away.

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#260491 - 05/12/13 02:17 AM Re: Dangerous critters [Re: hikermor]
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I grab them by the throat as they charge me and then lift them off the ground.
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#260492 - 05/12/13 02:29 AM Re: Dangerous critters [Re: hikermor]
Pete Offline
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why is it always pit bulls ... especially in pack?
an attack by multiple fierce dogs is a very dangerous situation.

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#260494 - 05/12/13 03:14 AM Re: Dangerous critters [Re: bws48]
bsmith Offline
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Originally Posted By: bws48
I have been wondering about what would be the best defense/defence (take your choice grin).

i've noticed a few walking folks who carry a golf club on our bike path. not being a golfer i'm not sure of the name of this type but it has a large rounded head on the business end. oh yeah, it's called a driver.
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#260500 - 05/12/13 05:22 PM Re: Dangerous critters [Re: hikermor]
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Two Pit Bulls recently attacked an Urban Search and Rescue K-9 in NC. The K-9 later succumbed to the injuries. These PB's accessed the K-9 over a 5' chain link fence while running at large from another neighborhood. The loss of the USAR K-9 while tragic on many levels would have been nothing compared to the loss of a human life. Side note: The neighborhood where the K-9 lived has 20 children under 12 years of age. The owner of the PBs is in trouble, as are local authorities. Reportedly these PBs had attacked three times previously and no action had been taken to prevent a re-occurrence. All "wild animals" don't live in the woods. Be prepared to deal with these type problems, both mentally and physically, if you could be faced with this situation.
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#260578 - 05/16/13 12:57 AM Re: Dangerous critters [Re: hikermor]
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"Two Pit Bulls recently attacked an Urban Search and Rescue K-9 in NC. The K-9 later succumbed to the injuries. These PB's accessed the K-9 over a 5' chain link fence while running at large from another neighborhood"

Wow. That's a pretty profound outcome.
I wouldn't have guessed that the K-9 would have gone down that easily. Are we talking a German Shepherd here?

If the K-9 was a large dog - then there is something I'm still not fully understanding about the Pit Bulls. These dogs must have a specific attack pattern that's particularly risky to the victim. It would be nice to know exactly how they operate.

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#260586 - 05/16/13 04:27 AM Re: Dangerous critters [Re: Pete]
rescueguru Offline
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The K-9 was a Border Collier. He was smaller and lighter than either of the attackers. Major injuries and the major emergency vet center was some distance away. The K-9 survived three days, but much like humans that have been in profound shock the outcome wasn't good even with the best care available.
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#260588 - 05/16/13 10:58 AM Re: Dangerous critters [Re: hikermor]
gonewiththewind Offline
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Not all K9s are trained for attack. Most are sniffing for bombs or drugs.

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#260596 - 05/16/13 02:24 PM Re: Dangerous critters [Re: hikermor]
Pete Offline
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rescueguru & montanero ... thanks.

rescueguru - very sorry about the Collie. that's a sad incident.

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