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#257545 - 03/13/13 12:43 AM Re: A backup was needed for bear spray this time? [Re: clearwater]
Bingley Offline
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Registered: 02/27/08
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Sometimes when I see such black and white comments as "this caliber will stop any [bear/bad guy/sith lord]," I get a little worried. Nothing ever works 100% of the time. A fine defensive caliber like .357 has failed at times. A state trooper placed multiple rounds of .357 center mass on his assailant, but that didn't stop the bad guy, who survived. Unfortunately, the trooper did not. So before packing your favorite caliber for the extreme unlikely situation of encountering a grizzly intent on killing you, please remember that your mileage may vary.

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#257550 - 03/13/13 05:59 AM Re: A backup was needed for bear spray this time? [Re: hikermor]
spuds Offline
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Registered: 06/24/12
Posts: 822
Loc: SoCal Mtns
Originally Posted By: hikermor
"any ear in Calif" does not include grizzlies, despite their appearance on the state flag. Grizzlies have been extirpated from CA for nearly 100 years. The black bear is a very different critter, smaller and less aggressive (usually).
Very true.No grizzlies here.Thought that was a given but not clear,so dont be confused,no grizzlies here for sure.

But problem Bears,we have plenty.And a magnum handgun will stop them.

And smaller calibers too,but hardly ideal for sure.You want to be a serious experienced marksman/hunter with nerves of steel to do that.But it can be done.

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#257551 - 03/13/13 06:05 AM Re: A backup was needed for bear spray this time? [Re: Pete]
spuds Offline
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Registered: 06/24/12
Posts: 822
Loc: SoCal Mtns
Originally Posted By: Pete

I agree that there are folks who hunt the smaller bears, such as those in CA, with handguns in .357mag and 44mag caliber. Although I have to say that we do have bears getting up to 700-800 pounds in California and I sure wouldn't want to wound one of those things with a handgun :-)

Pete2
A lot of large game I wouldnt want to wound with any weapon.

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#257579 - 03/13/13 10:40 PM Re: A backup was needed for bear spray this time? [Re: spuds]
hikermor Offline
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Registered: 08/26/06
Posts: 7705
Loc: southern Cal
I just ran across a report of a Native Alaskan who stated that his grandfather used to bring down bears with a 22 LR. Aiming point was the ear of the critter.. I would assume he didn't try this technique when the animal was charging....
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#257758 - 03/19/13 09:08 PM Re: A backup was needed for bear spray this time? [Re: clearwater]
drahthaar Offline
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Registered: 12/05/06
Posts: 110
"Sounds like a grizzly defending it's kill isn't always stopped by bear spray."

One hunter used bear spray and two hunters fired on the bear when it was within 10 feet""

Hmmm...

You have a dead bear, a discharged can of pepper spray and two weapons fired.

It _could_ have happened the way it is described by the survivors.

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