#253271 - 11/13/12 06:36 AM
Flashlightaholics: Anybody use 16340 batteries?
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 04/01/10
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Loc: Northern California
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For any of your flashlights, do you use 16340 batteries, the rechargeable version of CR123? Is there any advantage or is it mostly an inconvenience? I might buy this flashlight and have been thinking about trying out a 16340 battery: http://dx.com/p/tk-360-cree-xp-g-r5-200-...-113158?item=13
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#253274 - 11/13/12 10:09 AM
Re: Flashlightaholics: Anybody use 16340 batteries?
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Carpal Tunnel
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I think the main issue with the rechargeable versions are that they lack the ability to work in the cold like the lithium version. However they do put out an impressive amount of power.
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#253277 - 11/13/12 02:14 PM
Re: Flashlightaholics: Anybody use 16340 batteries?
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 07/11/10
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In all honesty, I've never run down a CR123 due to use... they power my weapons' lights and SureFire/SolarForce high intensity lights, and don't get routine usage...I have replaced them after multi year stand by service
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#253283 - 11/13/12 03:55 PM
Re: Flashlightaholics: Anybody use 16340 batteries?
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/15/05
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Loc: California
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For any of your flashlights, do you use 16340 batteries, the rechargeable version of CR123? Among the Candlepower Forums crowd, "16340" generally refers to one particular type of rechargeable CR123-sized cell, but there are other types/chemistries out there, e.g. Li-Co RCR123 cells. "16340" generally refers to IMR-type cells, which are capable of high dischrage rates but have lower capacity than the more typical Li-Co lithium ion rechargeable cells. I think you'll find this discussion on Candlepower Forums interesting. I haven't worn out any of my Li-Co RCR123 cells yet, so I have not tried these IMR cells yet. In general, if you want really high currents, then IMR's are the way to go. If not, then Li-Co's still have their place depending on any other priorities you may have.
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#253289 - 11/13/12 04:42 PM
Re: Flashlightaholics: Anybody use 16340 batteries?
[Re: Phaedrus]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 04/01/10
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Thank you, everybody. I have a lot of reading to do about the fundamental characteristics of various batteries. All of my EDC flashlights must be able to perform in cold conditions. Perhaps all rechargeable batteries are eliminated altogether (?).
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#253291 - 11/13/12 05:09 PM
Re: Flashlightaholics: Anybody use 16340 batteries?
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/03/07
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Perhaps all rechargeable batteries are eliminated altogether (?) Tenergy LiFePO4 RCR123As have very good low temperature performance and excellent number of charge/dischage cycles. They have a slightly less capacity though compared with other 16340 cells. http://www.batteryjunction.com/rc375reliba.html
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#253292 - 11/13/12 05:56 PM
Re: Flashlightaholics: Anybody use 16340 batteries?
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Registered: 03/13/05
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Loc: Colorado
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I use rechargeable Li-Ion for all my daily carry flashlights (yes, multiple - what can I say?!) But you have to buy a light that is designed to use the higher voltage. I am talking from the AA-size battery perspective. I use the 14500 rechargeable Li-Ions 99% of the time. My fallback to that are the Eneloop rechargeable NiMH's. Third fallback is Alkaline.
I only have one CR123 light (weapons light on my shotgun). For that, I use regular primary CR123's. For that use - very short and sporatic use (testing mostly) - I think primary lithium cells are the best.
If you are considering rechargeable CR123's, realize that there are DIFFERENT VOLTAGES available. Make sure you get something compatible with your flashlight. Also, if you have two rechargeable Li-Ions in series you sure as heck better make sure they are the "protected" kind. Otherwise you are at risk for fire and smoke. Better than two Li-Ion CR123's (I forgot the model designation for these) in series, I would recommend ONE 18650 cell that replaces both. Again, make sure your flashlight can handle the additional voltage.
The rule of thumb for rechargeable Li-Ion's is, if your are going to buy a cheap charger (the UltraFire for example), get GOOD batteries (e.g., AW brand, etc). If you are going to get cheap batteries (UltraFire, etc.) get a GOOD charger. I personally use an UltraFire charger for Li-ions, but for batteries I always use the top-notch AW brand protected cells.
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