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#250667 - 09/06/12 10:49 AM Re: Looking for "secondary fuel" for Esbit stove [Re: Chisel]
Chisel Offline
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I have seen it somewhere but don't remember where.

I am trying to avoid liquid fuels, but adding a cat stove to my bag isn't a bad idea just in case. Now I remember buying a 1-liter can of some solvent a few years ago for my daughter's art class, which I think could have been denatured alcohol. I have to investigate that.

Some of the sanitizers (GermX, Dial ..etc. ) in my preps have 63% ethyl alcohol as active ingredient. Can you please tell me what are the contents of Purell ?


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#250671 - 09/06/12 12:09 PM Re: Looking for "secondary fuel" for Esbit stove [Re: Chisel]
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that is the percentage contained in Purell. Should work just fine...
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#250672 - 09/06/12 12:13 PM Re: Looking for "secondary fuel" for Esbit stove [Re: Chisel]
Chisel Offline
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Thanks hikermor

I will stock up on GermX, and Purell, if I find it.



Edited to add :

WOW!!

http://www.delish.com/food/recalls-reviews/teens-drinking-hand-sanitizer


Edited by Chisel (09/06/12 12:32 PM)

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#250674 - 09/06/12 12:49 PM Re: Looking for "secondary fuel" for Esbit stove [Re: chaosmagnet]
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Fire gel? If it's easy to find you could use those with the charcoal tablets you mentioned


I have found and used fire gel sometime ago and propably can get it agian. However, if GermX or Purell can burn, they will be better because they are multi purpose. Maybe Fire gell is cheaper I don't know, but I will not be using these regularly. Only as backup to gas stoves , or emergency use.

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#250675 - 09/06/12 12:55 PM Re: Looking for "secondary fuel" for Esbit stove [Re: Chisel]
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Now I am getting greedy for more advice.

My question is : assuming I have the DIY skills necessary, can you suggest me a stove design for both esbit/hexamine AND alcohol, whichever fuel is available.

I already have homemade esbit type stoves and cat stoves. But none of them will work with both fuels. Plus the cat stove seems too small for for anything but a steel cup.

How about if I put a smallish CAT stove inside the homemade esbit ( a larger - half height coffee - can that has holes around the top and bottom. ) Advantags is more stability for larger pots. CAT stoves work on the principle that flame will come out from the side holes. However if the pot sits on teh larger ( outer ) can , flame will come out of the top of the CAt stove. Is that bad ?

I have seen on you tube something like this when someone filled a tea candle aluminum container with sand and alcohol and used it as a candkle or micro heater. Maybe I can fill the CAt with some sand and alcohol and put it inside the larger can.

Your thoughts ???

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#250683 - 09/06/12 04:02 PM Re: Looking for "secondary fuel" for Esbit stove [Re: Chisel]
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if you have access to 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol, the small stove I described works pretty well for a pot to sit on top... takes a minute or so to heat up the screen

http://www5.snapfish.com/snapfish/thumbn..._NAME=snapfish/

http://www5.snapfish.com/snapfish/slides..._NAME=snapfish/


Edited by LesSnyder (09/06/12 10:04 PM)

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#250701 - 09/07/12 01:10 AM Re: Looking for "secondary fuel" for Esbit stove [Re: Teslinhiker]
jshannon Offline
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Thanks Teslin. I think others have mentioned denatured alcohol. You could also use gasoline additive containing methanol (yellow heet bottle in USA).

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#250707 - 09/07/12 01:48 AM Re: Looking for "secondary fuel" for Esbit stove [Re: Chisel]
chaosmagnet Offline
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Purell works well as a fire starter and I'm sure you could cook with it. I think that fire gel burns hotter and longer.

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#250724 - 09/07/12 11:07 AM Re: Looking for "secondary fuel" for Esbit stove [Re: Chisel]
ILBob Offline
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can stoves seem to work pretty well and alcohol of some sort ought to be readily available just about anywhere.
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#250902 - 09/13/12 03:07 AM Re: Looking for "secondary fuel" for Esbit stove [Re: Chisel]
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if you come up with another fuel for that stove you may as well just buy a stove to match the fuel,alcohol-get a Trangia burner,so on.
here is my off-the-wall idea.first off the Germans in WW2 had Esbit stoves and they were a treasured bit of gear even with no tabs to go with them.on the Eastern Front where the stove was just about a life saver no tabs were coming on the supply trains,it was all ammo and fuel.
that folding stove however was a dry place to set anything that would burn,had a bit of a windshield and a pot rest.that means you did not have to fool around making those things.
now what i would have you try is to carry that stove around and find fuel for it.no joke,you don't have to light it if you don't want to or are someplace where you can't like a bus stop.
there should be a world of litter,man made or natural that you could put a flame too and feed under the pot as it burns down.
that what survival is all about,making do,you can of course pack away some sort of fuel as a back-up when nothing else is at hand to burn.

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