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#239179 - 01/12/12 10:53 PM Re: Urbane Preparedness [Re: dweste]
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Starbuck's Via instant coffee- Italian Roast.
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#239229 - 01/13/12 06:24 PM Re: Urbane Preparedness [Re: dweste]
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What stoves can and cannot be used indoors?

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#239231 - 01/13/12 06:49 PM Re: Urbane Preparedness [Re: dweste]
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in Europe they used Primus type kerosene stoves for many years.they did more than just cook but roasted coffee beans and that sort of stuff.kero is still used around the world for cooking and heat.venting of some sort is always a good idea and the quality of the burner running hot without fumes is a plus.
i would not use a white gas stove inside.someplace there is a chart with the stoves and the amount of carbon monoxide they put out,i'm sure one of the stove blogers will post it.

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#239245 - 01/13/12 08:27 PM Re: Urbane Preparedness [Re: dweste]
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Loc: Southern California
The co levels seem to depend more on the stove then the fuel. It may be a function of flame front temperature or burner efficiency, but I'm no chemist.

http://www.bushwalking.org.au/FAQ/FAQ_Monoxide.htm

If you want to be double safe, co detectors are pretty cheap (<$30). I've got a pair of Kidde detectors in my house. One next to the furnace, and the other next to the drier. Both are gas powered appliances, and potential sources of co poisoning.
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#239255 - 01/13/12 11:25 PM Re: Urbane Preparedness [Re: Mark_R]
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One variable apparently is the height of the pot above the stove flame - too close and the flame is cooled, creating CO. A blue flame is good, a yellow flame (usually incomplete combustion) is not so good.

In practice, most people cook indoors when they must, but do only the minimum amount if they are cognizant of CO hazards. Never use the stove as a space heater. CO monitors are cheap.....


Edited by hikermor (01/14/12 01:21 AM)
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#239258 - 01/14/12 12:32 AM Re: Urbane Preparedness [Re: dweste]
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Registered: 11/19/09
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Loc: New Jersey
IMHO, the best bet for cooking at home is a 2-burner Coleman or similar propane stove. You can find them for $10 at yard sales or around $30-40 new. I used one for almost a week when we lost power due to the Halloween snow storm. Cast iron frying pans work best, but regular cookware will also work. You will need a percolator to make fresh coffee, or settle for instant. Don't forget to keep a good supply of propane canisters, they fly off the shelves when the power goes out.

I noticed no issues with CO using the Coleman stove inside. I have CO detectors on each floor and neither made a peep.
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#239261 - 01/14/12 01:15 AM Re: Urbane Preparedness [Re: Mark_M]
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Percolator for fresh coffee??? Nooooo wink a percolator boils the coffee.

Try a Melitta Manual Coffee Maker. Use any good kettle to bring the water up to 200°F (195-205°F) and just pour the water slowly over the coffee grounds sitting in the cone filter. It makes a very good cup of coffee; I use one daily with freshly ground beans.

A 5-inch stainless-steel stem thermometer is handy to get the water in that small range 'tween hot enough to get flavor out of the grounds and not so hot that the coffee turns acidic (195-205°F).

Given a loss of electricity, I'd bring the water up to the correct temp using one of my camp/hiking stoves (yes the Coleman two burner propane is a good choice) and otherwise make the same great cup of coffee I make daily with an electric stove-top.

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#239290 - 01/14/12 04:50 AM Re: Urbane Preparedness [Re: dweste]
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Registered: 07/11/10
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Mark_M... don't know about your personal preference to the task, but the 1# bottles are pretty easy to refill from a 25# bulk tank...for a non power outage refill, if you place 1# bottles in the freezer for a couple of days, you can get a pretty decent fill with an inverted supply tank to get as much liquid as possible..

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#239302 - 01/14/12 10:02 AM Re: Urbane Preparedness [Re: LesSnyder]
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A simple adapter allows one to run a Coleman stove from a 25# tank, which will last a long time. The propane is also much cheaper when purchased in bulk.
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#239308 - 01/14/12 01:27 PM Re: Urbane Preparedness [Re: hikermor]
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IMO anyone with a Coleman two burner propane stove should get the attachments to use a 25# tank. That's a very nice emergency set-up for home.
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