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#236218 - 11/24/11 04:34 AM Re: Emergency Stove Comparison [Re: bacpacjac]
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Good to know. Thanks Jim!

I threw together a kit and added some ZIP firestarters. I wonder how they'll compare. I'll have to experiment tomorrow night.
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#236220 - 11/24/11 05:00 AM Re: Emergency Stove Comparison [Re: bacpacjac]
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Hmm. Interesting. Let us know what you find out.

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#236221 - 11/24/11 05:12 AM Re: Emergency Stove Comparison [Re: bacpacjac]
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Will do!

FYI - these are them:
http://www.zipfires.com/ca/american-grilling/zip-original-firestarters/

Not a shareholder, just a long ago customer. (They smell like lighter fluid.)
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#236222 - 11/24/11 05:35 AM Re: Emergency Stove Comparison [Re: bacpacjac]
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Originally Posted By: bacpacjac
Will do!

FYI - these are them:
http://www.zipfires.com/ca/american-grilling/zip-original-firestarters/

Not a shareholder, just a long ago customer. (They smell like lighter fluid.)
Do they come individually wrapped? If these are what I think they are, if the seal becomes compromised, they'll go bad. Excellent fire starters if the seal stays good.

I think they're a porous material that contains something volatile like naphtha. The naphtha will dry up essentially if the seal is broken.

Zip Fires + ESBIT cubes = Win! Nice combo. smile

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#236227 - 11/24/11 07:30 AM Re: Emergency Stove Comparison [Re: Hikin_Jim]
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Hey Jim,Thanx for the comparison info on these stoves,I have an Esbit winger,2-Stansport,& 4-No name German army stoves,they are Exactly the same as,one another.The stansports come with the pill type fuel,the german ones come with the wafer type.I was toying around with them awhile back,& found that candle wax dripped upon a burning fuel tab(pill type)will flame up fairly quick like & burn with gusto/ferocity!I didn't make the means of boiling water,but I'm thinking I'll do it again for a cup of water with candle,& without, to see if there is a Big difference.It stinks something horrible though,& smokes as bad,probably wouldn't be good in shelter situ.Happy Thanksgiving,almost! smile

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#236237 - 11/24/11 06:11 PM Re: Emergency Stove Comparison [Re: Richlacal]
Hikin_Jim Offline
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Originally Posted By: Richlacal
Hey Jim,Thanx for the comparison info on these stoves,I have an Esbit winger,2-Stansport,& 4-No name German army stoves,they are Exactly the same as,one another.The stansports come with the pill type fuel,the german ones come with the wafer type.I was toying around with them awhile back,& found that candle wax dripped upon a burning fuel tab(pill type)will flame up fairly quick like & burn with gusto/ferocity!I didn't make the means of boiling water,but I'm thinking I'll do it again for a cup of water with candle,& without, to see if there is a Big difference.It stinks something horrible though,& smokes as bad,probably wouldn't be good in shelter situ.Happy Thanksgiving,almost! smile
Hi, Rich,

Good to know.

I have a question: If you drip wax on the fuel tabs before you light them, are they easier to light? That would be handy.

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#236239 - 11/24/11 07:28 PM Re: Emergency Stove Comparison [Re: Hikin_Jim]
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Loc: Montreal Canada
Originally Posted By: Hikin_Jim
Originally Posted By: bacpacjac
Will do!

FYI - these are them:
http://www.zipfires.com/ca/american-grilling/zip-original-firestarters/

Not a shareholder, just a long ago customer. (They smell like lighter fluid.)
Do they come individually wrapped? If these are what I think they are, if the seal becomes compromised, they'll go bad. Excellent fire starters if the seal stays good.

I think they're a porous material that contains something volatile like naphtha. The naphtha will dry up essentially if the seal is broken.

Zip Fires + ESBIT cubes = Win! Nice combo. smile

HJ


I experimented with those a while back as tinder/firestarter and that's pretty much what they are, spongy material soaked with kerosene (smells like it). Fine for BBQ since if one doesn't work you just grab another, but not something you want to rely on when you really need to get a fire going.

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#236260 - 11/25/11 08:28 AM Re: Emergency Stove Comparison [Re: bacpacjac]
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Maybe the first part of my post is pure nonsense LOL. But really, I don't understand the cut pattern on some esbit stoves. The one in above picture is symmetrical and nice but in some other models they are cut in odd geometry. I tried to figure the purpose but failed.

Anyways, interesting about the one pictured above, if you notice the cut is somehow like teeth. Right ? In one U-tube, I noticed a hiker used the stove upside down ON A LOG, not on the ground or a flat surface. The "teeth" had a good grip of the side of log and the stove didn't slip during cooking. Something to appreciate if you have lots of debris on the ground after a hurricane or earthquake.

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#236264 - 11/25/11 12:29 PM Re: Emergency Stove Comparison [Re: bacpacjac]
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Thanks for the tip Chisel! I've often wonder about using it that way myself. Knew there had to be a good reason for those ridges!
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#236283 - 11/25/11 04:51 PM Re: Emergency Stove Comparison [Re: bacpacjac]
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Trying to visualize the tuna can stove on goole, I found this:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/survivalism/topic/1249476/1/
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