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#230766 - 08/27/11 01:49 PM Link for this stove ?????
Chisel Offline
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First time to see this stove

The video is long ( 32+ minutes).
You can find the stove @ (10:33)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS-jlmti8-w

He called it ( Swiss Rocket stove)

I like it because it combines a rocket stove and an esbit / alcohol stove all in one. I particularly like the deep cup where fire the sides as well, not only the bottom. Makes it an efficient heat transferring stove. And you can use anything from twigs, to esbit cubes , to a small cup (tea candle cup) full of alcohol

Anyone seen it in any website ??
How much is it ?

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#230770 - 08/27/11 02:31 PM Re: Link for this stove ????? [Re: Chisel]
comms Offline
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That's just a solid fuel stove. Not alcohol. Been around a long time but pretty niche. Could use a burning coal, esbit tab, probably wet tinder fire starter. I've seen some of my 'greener' buddies trying to use similar chimney type kits burning sticks and tender instead of man made fuels. swiss stove

CheaperThanDirt sells them for $10 used. Sigg bottle in the video will run you another $25 if you don't have one laying around.
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#230802 - 08/28/11 03:33 AM Re: Link for this stove ????? [Re: Chisel]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
There was a previous thread here about this stove about 3 yrs ago: ETS - Swiss volcano stove

Sue

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#230820 - 08/28/11 10:43 AM Re: Link for this stove ????? [Re: Susan]
Chisel Offline
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Thanks both of you

( BTW, www cheaper than dirt is off limits in my corner of the world. I can't access it. Maybe they see it as a survivalist or paramilitary thing ).

Anyway, my goal has been a stove that is based on Esbit but multi-purpose enough to take alcohol or even a Sterno canister. I noticed in the picture - older thread - that there is another gadget for alcohol or gasoline , but that one s not necessary. The outer chimney and cup are the most important. I wish I am handy enough to fabricate my own with the follewoing modifications :

- Make it wider a bit to accomaodate wider - more stable - cups like the normal canteen cup .

- Make the bottom of the chimney removable to insert a sterno inside if I want.

- Make it double walled like some stainless steel water containers. That should help minimize escaping heat and focus most of the heat to the cooking pot.

In such case, it would take all my favorite fuel types from twigs to sterno. And as a plus , will be very efficient in minimizing lost heat and not need a windscreen.

It may not be light or collapsable in that case, but my goal is make it a "car BOB stove" , not really for a backpack stove.

I live in a very hot area, and gas canisters are not really safe to be stored in car trunks. Twigs and esbit cubes are much safer and longer lasting. That's why I am more intersted in those.

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#230837 - 08/28/11 02:18 PM Re: Link for this stove ????? [Re: Chisel]
comms Offline
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Geesh, why didn't you just say so. laugh

here is a link for canteen stove tops. I used to own a very old, old model of a (i think) military issue that fit my canteen cup but it was taller. You could easily fit a sterno under here. I am guessing it nests the cup.
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#230853 - 08/28/11 07:29 PM Re: Link for this stove ????? [Re: Chisel]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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There is always the Esbit Cook Stove set.

http://www.amazon.com/Esbit-ESCS985HA0-S...2921&sr=8-1

Which uses a Trangia type copy alcohol burner and a elevated tray for Esbit Hexitabs.

The Wind shield might have a diameter wide enough to take a sterno can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHkloPDdFOA

You can get the swiss volcano Stove for about $10 in the UK

http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/shop/a...ano-690596.html

But I've never bothered with one.


Yes but can Yankeeprepper assemble a BREN gun blindfolded in 20 sec... laugh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QIO_G9gs0A


Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (08/28/11 07:50 PM)

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#230855 - 08/28/11 08:05 PM Re: Link for this stove ????? [Re: Chisel]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
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Loc: W. WA
Personally, I would like to see Hikin Jim do for alcohol/debris/Esbit stoves what he's been doing for the fancier stoves.

I suspect he has quite a collection of those, too! laugh

And if he doesn't, I'll bet that plant hunter from Spring, TX does.

Sue

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#230859 - 08/28/11 08:18 PM Re: Link for this stove ????? [Re: Chisel]
LesSnyder Offline
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on the link Susan mentioned, I posted that I had opened the hole on a new surplus Swiss Ranger Volcano stove to allow a Trangia stove to fit... later enlarged it so a Sterno can fit... at that point you are about at a full diameter opening...the jelled alcohol in the Sterno seems like a good idea for a car stove, and can always use twigs...at the time you could get a pair of units from Sportsman's Guide for around $20

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#231040 - 08/30/11 01:42 PM Re: Link for this stove ????? [Re: LesSnyder]
Chisel Offline
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Thanks everyone

LesSnyder , I have seen a few U-tubes since this thread pointed me the right direction, and noticed that boiling water takes longer time in this stove compared to others.
Do you remember how long it took you , using twigs, and using sterno ?? Thanks

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#231045 - 08/30/11 01:51 PM Re: Link for this stove ????? [Re: comms]
Chisel Offline
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Thanks comms

I have a rigid metal wire container (6x4x4 inches) that has no use as a container, and I was thinking to use it (upside down) with a sterno underneath ... The only thing is that I am almost obsessed with (efficiency). I am trying to find the BEST design for minimizing heat loss. Maybe using a windscreen is enough, but having the windscreen built-in is better.

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