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#220523 - 03/29/11 07:46 PM Re: Fukushima Nuke Plant Explosion [Re: Pete]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Move along, nothing to see here, its just a ongoing 'benign' radioactive lava escalation China syndrome event from just one of the reactors.

#220580 - 03/30/11 03:54 PM Re: Fukushima Nuke Plant Explosion [Re: MartinFocazio]
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Here's an interesting article - with some very good background information - about the possibility that at least one of the reactors at Fukushima may have unplanned nuclear reactions taking place in its core (i.e. a re-criticality condition). It's actually encouraging that some scientists who are operating in a "quiet background mode" are paying attention to all the data and trying to put the real story together.

This appears to be primarily a danger to the workers at the Fukushima plant, plus surrounding residents. It seems hard to believe that some of these workers have not received radiation doses that are far higher than what is has been reported (or implied) by TEPCO. It also means that the risk of high-level radiation leaking out into the environment is still high.


Pete #2

#220582 - 03/30/11 04:11 PM UC Berkeley is monitoring air and rain daily [Re: MartinFocazio]
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So far, levels of radioactivity are increased but not in any danger zone. If you're concerned about radioactivity in the US, UC Berkeley posts its monitoring results at least daily, sometimes more often.

For links to sites with information on radioactivity, how it's measured, and how to judge the potential damage caused by exposure to radiation, browse the links at http://civex.posterous.com

#220595 - 03/30/11 10:11 PM Re: UC Berkeley is monitoring air and rain daily [Re: MartinFocazio]
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I chuckled when other suggested that there needs to be some international body that can observe, test and report on situations. If only there were such an organization. I guess they haven't heard of the IAEA.

For those who still care about facts there is a lot of good information in the form of a log here:


They have taken some efforts to cross-check and confirm readings and assertions where possible, which is one of the reasons it takes about 14 hours to post, and have links to further sources and more detailed information that place the information in context.

#220597 - 03/30/11 10:33 PM Re: UC Berkeley is monitoring air and rain daily [Re: philip]
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Hmm, they were apparently reading 20 Bq/litre (about 250 times the Federal Standard for I131 isotope) at one point on the 3/23/11 at one location within the USA. Must of been a wet and rainy day on the 22nd for all that iodine to wash out down at Berkeley. What is quite worrying is that similar readings have been detected in Pennsylvania rainwater yet the atmospheric models are predicting the mid western states to get the worst of the nuclear fallout around the 2nd of April.



Concentrations reported for both, plutonium-238 and plutonium-239/240 are similar to those deposited in Japan as a result of the testing of nuclear weapons. The ratio of the concentrations of plutonium-238 and plutonium-239/240 in two of the samples indicate that very small amounts of plutonium might have been released during the Fukushima accident, but this requires to be further clarified.

The Plutonium bomb dropped on Nagasaki surely wasn't just a test. The IAEA b*lls*it statement could have at least been a little more politically correct.

Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (03/30/11 10:56 PM)

#220625 - 03/31/11 02:29 PM Re: UC Berkeley is monitoring air and rain daily [Re: MartinFocazio]
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"worst of the nuclear fallout around the 2nd of April. "

Wish you'd told me that earlier. Maybe I would have planned our family vacation to the Maldives. Or somewhere like that.
As it is ... we're headed for the central CA coast. I guess I'll just have to pick up an umbrella with a built-in Geiger detector.

ha! Ha!!

Pete #2

#220654 - 03/31/11 08:15 PM Re: Fukushima Nuke Plant Explosion [Re: Pete]
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The shadow of Chernobyl: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...ect-to-die.html

P.S. Please don't change the original subject line! (Philip?) It's hard to find topics later.

Edited by Alex (03/31/11 08:18 PM)

#220669 - 04/01/11 01:57 AM Re: Fukushima Nuke Plant Explosion [Re: Pete]
ki4buc Offline
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This has (possibly) been debunked, and there is a page out on the internet giving the reasons why.

Either way, still great pictures.

Originally Posted By: Pete
Here's a really interesting link from a Ukrainian woman named "Elena". She likes to ride her sports bike (motorcycle) through the Chernobyl nuclear fallout zone. I kid you not. She carries a radiation meter with her, and she's pretty good at using it! You can read all about her travels, and along the way you'll learn a lot about what a safe level of radiation really is. She still uses the old units for radiation - roentgens. So I guess that makes her an "old fashioned kinda girl". Ha! Ha! :-)

You may also find, as I did, that there's a lot about Chernobyl that you didn't really know. She does a good, good job about talking about it's impact on human life.

BTW, I was surprised to learn that the Soviets only succeeded in containing the burned-out reactor at Chernobyl by tunneling under it and making a new containment structure. Apparently a lot of miners died in those efforts. But the problem is that the new containment structure was only given a life of 30 years. Chernobyl was 25 years ago. So what do they plan to do in 5 years time? I don't think they will be able to conscript any more volunteers for that kind of work.

OK, rev up your engine and here we go with Elena ...


Pete #2

This item also posted on the thread about radiation measurements.

#220672 - 04/01/11 02:22 AM Re: Fukushima Nuke Plant Explosion [Re: ki4buc]
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The US Marine Sea Smurfs are now apparently being sent in to the Fukishima nuclear disaster hot zone.


#220719 - 04/01/11 08:00 PM Re: Fukushima Nuke Plant Explosion [Re: MartinFocazio]
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A lot of good quality images in the article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ation-leak.html

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