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#216725 - 02/09/11 02:04 PM Re: Why the tell you not to drive in a blizzard [Re: ILBob]
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#216764 - 02/09/11 07:11 PM Re: Why the tell you not to drive in a blizzard [Re: MartinFocazio]
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We're supposed to have mid-day temps around -4 tomorrow so some coworkers and I are going outside to enjoy lunch and a stogie.
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#218062 - 02/27/11 01:50 PM Re: Why the tell you not to drive in a blizzard [Re: ki4buc]
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Originally Posted By: ki4buc
If you own snow mobiles, you may consider contacting your local emergency management office. They may like to have volunteers that would be willing to help out. Especially in areas where severe winter weather does not occur more than a few days on average over a few years.

Most places won't do this, but at least if you're part of emergency response before hand, it is really unlikely your equipment could be "borrowed" (with "just" compensation ) during a local state of emergency.


Best to keep them out of site so they don't get "borrowed" if that bothers you any.
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#218157 - 03/01/11 01:17 AM Re: Why the tell you not to drive in a blizzard [Re: ILBob]
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Originally Posted By: ILBob
Originally Posted By: ki4buc
If you own snow mobiles, you may consider contacting your local emergency management office. They may like to have volunteers that would be willing to help out. Especially in areas where severe winter weather does not occur more than a few days on average over a few years.

Most places won't do this, but at least if you're part of emergency response before hand, it is really unlikely your equipment could be "borrowed" (with "just" compensation ) during a local state of emergency.


Best to keep them out of site so they don't get "borrowed" if that bothers you any.



Nobody is coming for your snowmobile.
Nobody is coming for your duck decoys.
Nobody is coming to take your {insert treasured object here} in a snowstorm.

If you have stuff that might be useful in an emergency, you have likely already been contacted and are already on an emergency plan somewhere. If you're not and you want to be, a letter to your municipality might be in order. they would welcome it.

In my planning book, I have arrangements with a lot of people. As a result, I have 10 backhoes, 8 dump trucks, 20 ATV's, 10 boats, at least 1 20 ton crane, 100 portable toilets, 5 generators, a complete portable kitchen, three sources for propane, diesel and gasoline, 8 ham radio operators and a notebook full of other stuff...all preplanned and redundant for a postage-stamp sized bit of Northeast PA. I'm just a volunteer Emergency Management Coordinator. The professionals are far better equipped than me. If we need more help, we'll ask, no question about it, but the reality is that part of your planning process is letting human beings act as human beings - and right here in PA, when Interstate 78 closed with similar winter weather, trapping people on the road for 3 days, the locals came out on snowmobiles, without central management directing them, and brought food, water, fuel and sanitation equipment to the folks trapped on the road.

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#218160 - 03/01/11 02:14 AM Re: Why the tell you not to drive in a blizzard [Re: MartinFocazio]
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Originally Posted By: MartinFocazio


If you have stuff that might be useful in an emergency, you have likely already been contacted and are already on an emergency plan somewhere. If you're not and you want to be, a letter to your municipality might be in order. they would welcome it.


This is true. We have snowmobiles, plows, and a bunch of wheel loaders. If the town our shop is located in needs extra assistance, they'll call us up and ask if we can help out. Generally, the arrangement is that we clear our buildings first and then we'll come out and help the town after we get in some sleep if they decide they need us.

Last major storm, it took us about 15 straight hours to get our stuff clear, then we got a few hours sleep, and went out to help the town. Typically their plows can move the snow into big piles on the side of the road, they just need us to come around with the loaders and help move the piles onto lawns and such. All in all, it was a solid three days before we got the town back to some semblance of normalcy.

I can't really ever see them commandeering our equipment. Typically, the biggest problem around here isn't that they don't have enough equipment....what they are usually lacking is enough qualified operators. Just like everybody else, sometimes the guys that drive the plows have trouble getting into work. Then you can only plow for so many hours before you need to get some sleep, at that point you're either shutting everything down until the next day or replacing your entire crew.

People need to realize that emergency workers aren't magicians. A major snowfall causes a lot of the same problems for us that it does for everyone else. In fact, often times we have the exact same problems, just on a larger scale...(You've got your car stuck in front of your neighbors house? Great, I'll be right over to help after I get my 17 ton loader out that's stuck down in a ditch.) One can only do so much at a time and certain things simply take precedence.

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