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#216343 - 02/03/11 02:39 PM Re: Who keeps a POTS around? [Re: Susan]
Eugene Offline
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You don't even have to go into the house, just go to the back and find the grey box and open it up and plug your phone in there.

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#216378 - 02/03/11 10:47 PM Re: Who keeps a POTS around? [Re: Susan]
ireckon Offline
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Loc: Northern California
Originally Posted By: Susan
I asked this question because a friend was telling me she had some wind damage earlier this winter, and a tree came down on her phone line, ripping it completely loose from her house. The power was already out. Her cell phone had had an unfortunate 'death by toilet' due to a toddler who is big on flushing. She knew her immediate neighbors only had electronic phones, but they did have useful phone jacks.

Sue


In that case, sure, I have a POTS phone sitting around. I just don't have the service. Any old POTS phone will work with my Vonage device.
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#217003 - 02/13/11 04:28 PM Re: Who keeps a POTS around? [Re: 2005RedTJ]
Brangdon Offline
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Loc: Nottingham, UK
Originally Posted By: 2005RedTJ
We had a meeting today at work about POTS. We're predicting in my line of work (alarm industry) that POTS will be 100% gone by the end of 2014. The majority of all new systems sold by my company are either cellular or long-range radio communication.
For me the phone is provided by the cable company that also provides TV and broadband. I can't see it disappearing because it's a small additional cost once you've got the cable for those in place. Also I think wired comms is always going to have advantages over wireless.

Maybe I misunderstood what was meant by POTS. It is wired, and powered from the phone lines. I'm pretty sure it'd work if the household electricity failed, but I don't know about a wider failure or where it really gets its power from now. Interesting question.

Having the phone from the same provided as the internet means that if one fails, they'll probably both fail. However, it does act as a back-up to the mobile phone network. I'd have thought the under-ground cables would be more reliable than masts.

I suspect the only way to be sure of doing better is to get a satellite phone. Or a radio ham's licence. Neither of which I can be bothered with. The law of diminishing returns kicks in.
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#217008 - 02/13/11 05:45 PM Re: Who keeps a POTS around? [Re: Brangdon]
ireckon Offline
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Originally Posted By: Brangdon
Originally Posted By: 2005RedTJ
We had a meeting today at work about POTS. We're predicting in my line of work (alarm industry) that POTS will be 100% gone by the end of 2014. The majority of all new systems sold by my company are either cellular or long-range radio communication.
For me the phone is provided by the cable company that also provides TV and broadband. I can't see it disappearing because it's a small additional cost once you've got the cable for those in place. Also I think wired comms is always going to have advantages over wireless.

Maybe I misunderstood what was meant by POTS. It is wired, and powered from the phone lines. I'm pretty sure it'd work if the household electricity failed, but I don't know about a wider failure or where it really gets its power from now. Interesting question.

Having the phone from the same provided as the internet means that if one fails, they'll probably both fail. However, it does act as a back-up to the mobile phone network. I'd have thought the under-ground cables would be more reliable than masts.

I suspect the only way to be sure of doing better is to get a satellite phone. Or a radio ham's licence. Neither of which I can be bothered with. The law of diminishing returns kicks in.


A cable Internet phone is not POTS, even though you may ultimately be using a POTS phone at your ear. Cable Internet phones operate through coax cables and need a modem, among other equipment, to operate. POTS operates via older copper wiring and needs no computer devices in your home besides the POTS phone.

http://www.networkdictionary.com/telecom/pots.php
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#217015 - 02/13/11 08:33 PM Re: Who keeps a POTS around? [Re: Brangdon]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 3078

POTS and PSTN will still be around for some time in the UK as the BT 21CN can't really cope with reliable IP based VOIP traffic, the multi billion investment by BT for its 21st century backbone network infrastructure is being constructed using cheap Chinese made routers etc (rather than purchasing British made nationally more secure Marconi kit), which has high latency and packet loss problems. The move to an IP based telephony, for BT landline and Virgin Media (the telephone is still using POTS/PSTN rather than a cable modem), which was promised a few year ago is doomed to failure. The network isn't even IPv6 capable. crazy

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/10/21cn_ipv6/

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/01/aa_bt/

Best to stick with the 50 Mbit/sec Broadband line from Virgin Media (the 100Mbit/sec is a little spendy for not really much performance difference). I do even though I can get free BT ADSL Broadband as going back to 3-5 Mbit/sec is really a no brainer.

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#217074 - 02/14/11 10:47 PM Re: Who keeps a POTS around? [Re: Susan]
celler Offline
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Registered: 12/25/03
Posts: 410
Loc: Jupiter, FL
I live in hurricane alley (South Florida). You would be shocked how many of my neighbors had no phone service during the last big storm because electrical power was down. The phone lines were good, but everyone had cordless phones that require electrical power at the base transmitter in order to operate. A simple POTS wired phone available for less than $10 at Wal-Mart would have been a salvation. I keep one permanently connected to the phone line in case of failure and a stored backup in case of a long term power failure. And has been stated, if you have Vonage or other broadband based telephone service, it will die as soon as your router dies from lack of electrical power. If you plan on having phone service during a blackout and have ditched POTS for an internet phone service, you need to be prepared to provide backup power to your router and cable or ADSL modem.

Craig

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