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#209561 - 10/13/10 01:35 AM Re: Idaho Survival Story in the Making [Re: ponder]
Susan Offline
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One would think that if he was alive, he could have started a signal fire sometime in two weeks, and the thermal imaging would have picked up on that, at least. I think he's taken a fall, or he's in a cave somewhere with a broken leg or something. If they're there, why wouldn't the thermal imaging at least pick up on the dog? Strange...

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#209562 - 10/13/10 01:46 AM Re: Idaho Survival Story in the Making [Re: Susan]
Teslinhiker Offline
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Registered: 12/14/09
Posts: 1409
Loc: Cranbrook BC (Finally)
Thermal imaging search was a topic in my AO the last couple of times this summer when hikers went missing here on 2 different occasions. In short, thermal imaging is difficult at best and can be greatly hampered by tree cover, deep valleys, gorges, canyons etc.

There are a couple of ex and active SAR on this forum and I am sure they can go into more detail on thermal imaging search techniques.
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#209567 - 10/13/10 02:57 AM Re: Idaho Survival Story in the Making [Re: ponder]
dougwalkabout Online   content
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 2894
Loc: Alberta, Canada
It's always sad when a search has to be called off.

I hope he defies the odds, but ...

frown


Edited by dougwalkabout (10/13/10 02:57 AM)

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#209593 - 10/13/10 01:38 PM Re: Idaho Survival Story in the Making [Re: ponder]
ponder Offline
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This survival story should highlight the value of a PLB when going into a very difficult terrain of huge proportions. Almost nothing else works when you have 7000' elevation gains, canyons, ledges and over 100 square miles of remote wilderness to search.
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#209602 - 10/13/10 04:31 PM Re: Idaho Survival Story in the Making [Re: ponder]
bsmith Offline
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Originally Posted By: ponder
This survival story should highlight the value of a PLB...

and maybe rethink using a camo backpack.
hope he's found.
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#209752 - 10/16/10 10:20 PM Re: Idaho Survival Story in the Making [Re: ponder]
ponder Offline
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HOPEFULLY IT AIN'T OVER -

The Idaho County Sheriff's office has confirmed that the three-year-old black Lab, Ruby, owned by missing hiker Todd Hofflander, has been found. Authorities had no more details, but said they would issue a press release later Saturday or early Sunday. Hofflander, 39, of Lucile, went missing in September in the Hells Canyon area. The official search for him was suspended this week. Hofflander was hiking with a friend in the Windy Saddle area on Sept. 27 when the pair split up. They planned to meet at an area cabin that afternoon. When Hofflander did not arrive by the next day, his friend went looking for him and later called Idaho County dispatch. Hofflander is described as an experienced woodsman. Officials say he was prepared for an overnight outing with food, water and a sleeping bag.
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#209753 - 10/16/10 11:04 PM Re: Idaho Survival Story in the Making [Re: ponder]
Dagny Offline
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Registered: 11/25/08
Posts: 1916
Loc: Washington, DC
http://www.lmtribune.com/breaking-news/1492/

Breaking News

Missing hiker's dog found

October 16, 2010, 2:28 pm

Hunters found the black Labrador retriever owned by missing hiker Todd Hofflander on Friday night, and searchers are combing the area today, Idaho County Sheriff Doug Giddings said.

Searchers are trying to get the dog, Ruby, to lead them to Lucile resident Todd Hofflander, Giddings said. The hunting party found the dog near mile post 15 on Seven Devils Road south of Riggins.

Hofflander, 39, was last seen scouting mule deer bucks Sept. 27 between the mountains and the Snake River gorge.

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#209754 - 10/17/10 01:00 AM Re: Idaho Survival Story in the Making [Re: ponder]
ponder Offline
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Most dogs and pack stock, turned loose and left to their own volition, will backtrack the exact path that they came in on. Ruby, if she got lost, or gave up on Todd, will walk back to the exact place she started from. In another few days, once on the road, she would be back home. It is to bad that she did not have a written message or a gps coordinate taped to her collar.

Before the tale is told, imagine the whole situation as if you were Todd.
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#209755 - 10/17/10 02:01 AM Re: Idaho Survival Story in the Making [Re: ponder]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
Can you imagine the frustration if you fell and broke your leg and had nothing to write on/with to attach a note to the dog's collar?

At least they have an idea of what area he's in now.

Sue

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#209756 - 10/17/10 03:19 AM Re: Idaho Survival Story in the Making [Re: ponder]
Phaedrus Offline
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I'll admit I considered taking the mini pencil and Rite-In-The-Rain paper out of my PSP, thinking it to be of marginal value. I'm certainly not going to do it now!
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