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#207315 - 09/05/10 01:38 AM Re: $22 knife is field and stream 'Best Knife 2010' [Re: quick_joey_small]
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Always take the XXX of the year on any magazine with a bag of salt. I know for a fact the car of the year on automobile magazines are really "the manufacturer who bought most ads of the year".

As for cold steel, they always under harden their cheap knives, the kudu use 1.4116 too and some guy tested them to be around 50 HRC.

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#207319 - 09/05/10 04:57 AM Re: $22 knife is field and stream 'Best Knife 2010' [Re: clearwater]
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Originally Posted By: clearwater
How does the Mora stainless sharpen? Does a Mora come in that blade pattern for skinning?


The Mora stainless sharpens quickly and easily. I would say it's very user-friendly in that regard.

The only Mora knives I've seen with the classic skinning pattern, the big deep belly and aggressively swept tip, are marketed in Canada under the 'Normark' brand; no doubt there are others.

FWIW, I can't claim to be The Mighty Hunter, but from what I've seen the skinning pattern blade is nicer to look at but not necessarily better in practice. I've helped my father skin many a deer with off-the-shelf Moras and never saw a problem. The trick (for me anyway) is to have a very coarse, almost sawtooth edge on the upswept tip; if I have a razor sharp edge, I keep nicking the hide. But there are others here who have much more experience in this sort of thing.

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#207326 - 09/05/10 10:43 AM Re: $22 knife is field and stream 'Best Knife 2010' [Re: quick_joey_small]
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I can't think of too many situations that would require a hunter to skin a deer with a lightweight sheath knife. Certainly, you can field dress a deer with almost any knife.

The blade, sheath, and handle shapes used by Mora and other Scandinavian knifemakers are based on handmade knives used by Laplanders and Finns who lived on reindeer for centuries. If you were hunting with intent to process a deer yourself, you would have other knives and saws in your truck or back at camp specifically for filleting, boning, skinning, and meat cutting. Ontario knives makes some excellent and inexpensive walnut handled carbon steel fillet and butcher knives for under $9.00 for these purposes.

The beauty IMO of the Mora 840 Clippers that I own is light weight (3.7 oz with sheath and paracord lanyard - 107 gr.)low cost, and it's thin 2mm razor sharp carbon steel blade. The blade is thin enough to fillet fish in a pinch, but sturdy enough for meat or light field work such as rope and feather stick kindling. I also think the OD/black color looks great.

I carry one in my pack to supplement the larger sheath knife I carry on my belt, and another in my truck as a backup.
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#207334 - 09/05/10 01:06 PM Re: $22 knife is field and stream 'Best Knife 2010' [Re: sak45acp]
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Is the tang strong enough for batoning?
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#207342 - 09/05/10 03:07 PM Re: $22 knife is field and stream 'Best Knife 2010' [Re: Byrd_Huntr]
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Originally Posted By: Byrd_Huntr
I can't think of too many situations that would require a hunter to skin a deer with a lightweight sheath knife. Certainly, you can field dress a deer with almost any knife.





I like to backcountry hunt and be able to fit the animal into
my pack. Having skinned a bear and a deer with an old Swedish
army knife, I found it tough to avoid poking holes in the hide.

I like the blade shape of the Pendleton. Just wondering if a
Mora comes in a similar pattern.

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#207344 - 09/05/10 04:29 PM Re: $22 knife is field and stream 'Best Knife 2010' [Re: quick_joey_small]
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possibly better example of a Pendleton in use (not the lite hunter).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmoyCzoAJas

I don't hunt so I'm just posting these without comment. I've no idea if it means anything.

qjs

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#207355 - 09/06/10 12:32 AM Re: $22 knife is field and stream 'Best Knife 2010' [Re: GoatRider]
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Originally Posted By: GoatRider
Is the tang strong enough for batoning?


No, most Moras have a short tang.

It should be noted that even much larger knives can and do break under heavy batoning. This x-ray of Mora tangs came from a British forum.


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Mora tangs.jpg


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#207363 - 09/06/10 02:23 AM Re: $22 knife is field and stream 'Best Knife 2010' [Re: quick_joey_small]
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Yep gotta watch it no matter what you use, I've seen quite a few broken full tangs include high quality knives like Bark River.

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#207370 - 09/06/10 05:18 AM Re: $22 knife is field and stream 'Best Knife 2010' [Re: quick_joey_small]
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I'm pretty particular about the tang of a knife. My old style Tanto that I've had for years is full tang and so tough you could easily use the knife as a hammer.

I want something like that to be as close to indestructible as they can make it.

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#207371 - 09/06/10 06:34 AM Re: $22 knife is field and stream 'Best Knife 2010' [Re: Byrd_Huntr]
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Originally Posted By: Byrd_Huntr
Originally Posted By: GoatRider
Is the tang strong enough for batoning?


No, most Moras have a short tang.


I do light batoning with mine (Mora 511). I make a point of stressing my field equipment a bit so I know the limitations.

I also believe batoning depends on proper application of force, avoiding as much as possible putting stress on the handle.

If and when it breaks I'll know more about that knifes limitations. I'll also have learned a bit more about batoning. My experience with that right now is rather limited, to say the least...

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