www.thermette.com For kelly kettle users We have a copper unit from New Zealand available.

Really?

http://www.equipped.org/ubbthreads/showt...=true#Post19637

Chris has been sleeping on the job.

I'm telling Doug. :-)

All credit to Presumed <img src="images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> I should have done a forum search first. <img src="images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Blame it on the strain of sewing a zeltbahn and millbank bag while airing out a shemagh and assomption sash smelling of the coyote pelt I acquired for a anorak hood ruff. My eyes are tired from to many hours online. I'll just go outside and mug up with some Earl Grey brewed in my solar oven by moonlight.

RE: brewed in my solar oven by moonlight
Wouldn't that be a lunar oven?

Well, we'll let it go this time... but I fail to understand your lack of fascination with the long, drawn-out threads on the minutiae of obscure bits of equipment... <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Does the Thermette look any closer to your ancient Hibernian copper version?

I have printed out the pages and I will go and see if one of the traditional tin and copper shops downtown can make something similar for me.

Burak

ratstr,

That's an area where you have an advantage over us here in the US. Despite the material wealth here, labor is so expensive that practically everything we own is made by machine, or at least in huge lots in factories. Of those that do hand-craft, 90 percent make things that are only decorative, not practical.

There are so few exceptions to this that I doubt if there are 6 people in the US making useful copperware by hand- the one that springs to mind is Peter Goebel of Goose Bay Workshops, who makes objects as they were made 200+ years ago here... but they are very expensive, he has little incentive to do custom work, and I myself have waited 11 months for an order.

If an object is manufactured in factories anywhere in the world it can usually be had here, but it would be very difficult indeed to get such custom work done.

If you do get one made, keep in mind that there must be no solder used in the fire ring or cooking ring, since there's no water there to protect the solder from the heat of the fire.

Presumed,

That is something I have noticed especially from the other forums that I have been following for Land Rovers and Unimogs. Some prices for labour I see are unbelievable (so is the money we earn here <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />).

There is a place named the Egyptian Bazaar here and one of the streets that is next to it is invaded by these sort of shops. Istanbul is a big metropol and it is getting harder to find these people here also. But in small towns and on the country side there are still traditional shops doing these kind of things dirt cheap.

Also you can buy for example 2 mt x 3 mt BDU cloth for 12 USD and get one sewed for yourself for another 30 USD. There is a hell of textile industry and all sorts of brands and makes here but I still like to get my shirts or pants made by a tailor.

I still pay my mechanic 50 USD for 6 hr hard work <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Thanks for the soldering advice. I will keep that in mind. If I can get a good bargain I plan to have more than one made. If posting won't be that bad maybe I can send some over there.

Burak

Burak,

Thank you for the insight into Istanbul and the surrounding area. It seems very exotic to most people in the US. I'm sure many of us in the US have paid a mechanic $50 for 6 minutes of hard work- though he might not have told us that. <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


I'm sure the craftsmen there can do well with this- it's not really much different than a semaver, is it? The Irish and New Zealanders each seem to think they came up with the idea, but, like most good ideas, the origins seem to go back for hundreds or even thousands of years. Our ancestors were no fools.

I appreciate the offer, but I did order one of the "thermettes" from the "other" coast of the US (although this design is from New Zealand, it's not entirely clear to me if these are being made in the US or NZ). It might even arrive today.

Personally, I would rather it had a "floor" to the "fire chamber", but since I already have a "Storm" (Kelly) Kettle for use indoors, it's not a difficulty to use this one only outdoors. I'm looking forward to trying it for cooking as well as boiling water.

The folks who emailed this information say a 3 lb coffee can bottom carefully cut out makes a perfect floor. I like the copper version purely for aesthetics. That and I can always have the thing repaired by passing tinker's <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.

Yes, a floor for the fire chamber seems necessary.

Burak

I have been to the workshops this saturday for thermette. In one of the shops I have been the shop owner showed me a semaver that he made. It is a chimney type semaver a little bit larger than the thermette but shorter. The price he asked was 7 USD. It is made of tin. I did not have much time to look for a copper one. If I can find a copper one that will be excellent, but if I can't I think I will buy some of this tin one!

More water capacity and it has a tap on it.

Burak

Considering that I pay over $4 USD almost every morning for a glorified mug of coffee, $7 for a semaver sounds like quite a bargain. <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

If you can find one in copper for a similar (or even double) price I would be very interested in one. Can you post some pics of what you have found in tin?

A friend of mine bought a samovar in Morocco, but she has never used it; the tour guide at the time warned her to use it only as a decoration, saying that the local tinsmiths sometimes used "questionable" materials. (Lead solder, maybe?) Is this an issue? Or is it just a case of western tourists being overcautious?

(Yes, I realise that Turkey is as far from Morocco as I am from the Atlantic Ocean.)

Well I have been in Morocco and I had tea from semavers over there. Indeed I do not like tea and even more further the tea over there is much more different from what we drink. I cannot comment on your friend's semaver but I think the tour guide must have a reason to say it.

Burak

Sorry I have no pics. But when I find a copper one I will take some pictures for you.

Burak

Thought I'd give this post a bump and look for any updated info. I'm looking at the Thermette and the Kelly Kettle as a possible item to send to a nephew who'll be deploying to Iraq soon.
I have a large Kelly Kettle that I've tried on top of a gas range, but not in the great out-of-doors yet. For those who've seen and/or used both - or at least the Thermette - can anyone share their impressions of how the two stack up side by side, now that they've had some time to use them?
Specifically, any impressions on which one is sturdier. Also, on the various flavors of Thermette (copper vs. tin) - is one sturdier than the other? Other than anti-corrosion/good in a salty sea air environment/aesthetics, any major advantages to the copper version? And the handles on the Thermette - is that an advantage over the bail/holding the chain setup of the Kelly Kettle, or does it keep the back of your hand close to the heat and prone to getting singed?
Also, specifically on the base of the Thermette - it looks like that base would give all the advantages of the "volcano" flue effect for cooking - is that correct or just the impression that comes from the ad?
Thanks for any input folks.
Dave