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#203637 - 06/19/10 11:59 AM Re: I cleared the supermarket of all its Pudding Rice. [Re: Byrd_Huntr]
Russ Offline
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Originally Posted By: Byrd_Huntr
. . .I followed your instructions exactly and the chicken was cold. I put it in for two more hours.......still cold smile smile smile

Susan, you forgot to tell him to turn the oven on -- 350-400F depending on the oven.
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#203641 - 06/19/10 04:05 PM Re: I cleared the supermarket of all its Pudding Rice. [Re: Susan]
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Originally Posted By: Susan
How's this for difficult: Roasted Chicken. Get a 4-lb chicken. Take it out of the bag, remove the stuff from the body cavity and give it to the dog (raw chicken necks are fine), wash the chicken in cold water (no soap), pat dry with a paper towel, put in a pan with sides (not a cookie sheet), and stick it in the oven for two hours. Remove and eat. Does that sound hard to you?
I know a lot of people wash the chicken, but it's really not a good idea. It's not necessary, as any germs on the skin will be killed when you cook it for two hours. It's dangerous because it's hard to avoid splashing the water, and getting raw chicken germs all over the sink area.

2 hours sounds long for a 4-lb chicken. I view it as a high-risk meat; maybe you gave a long time for safety. I think it's worth getting a thermometer and using it to ensure it's cooked through. That way you can avoid over-cooking.
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#203656 - 06/20/10 01:55 AM Re: I cleared the supermarket of all its Pudding Rice. [Re: chickenlittle]
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Thanks Chickenlittle!
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#203694 - 06/20/10 07:09 PM Re: I cleared the supermarket of all its Pudding Rice. [Re: Brangdon]
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"2 hours sounds long for a 4-lb chicken. I view it as a high-risk meat; maybe you gave a long time for safety."

It may depend on what temperature you're using. Two hours at 350F is just perfect for a 4# chicken, a little more time is usually required for one that is a bit larger.

I used to have a housemate who cooked everything at high temps, where 2 hours would set off the smoke alarms.

I wash the chickens inside and out because of the (lack of) quality of USDA slaughterhouses/packing plants. I never stuff birds for the same reason.

Sue

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#203702 - 06/20/10 08:44 PM Re: I cleared the supermarket of all its Pudding Rice. [Re: MDinana]
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And I admit I'm guilty of it too. I have a 3lbs bag of rice, some oatmeal, and lots of "instant" potatoes as my starches. I can't cook worth a damn.


Here is a simple recipe for Treacle Sponge Pudding, which is very easy to follow. You can buy them in a can but making the pudding from the basic ingredients saves money and tastes better. Serve with custard. If you can make Treacle Sponge pudding then making Spotted Dick (again available in a can, which makes for excellent canned ration food) is easier to make.


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#203794 - 06/22/10 03:10 PM Re: I cleared the supermarket of all its Pudding Rice. [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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I was attempting today to spread sheet a way of budgeting a weeks food per person for $15 for the basic staples.


Here is a spreadsheet for a 10 week ration for 1 person @ 2200Kcal per day for around £10 or $15 per week available from the local supermarkets for a basic food pantry. Most items will have a shelf life greater than 12 months. (Many of the items are available for less but quality has not really been diminished)



What is missing is of course are fresh fruit and vegetables, fresh meat and fish, fresh diary and eggs (I cannot easily find a source for dried egg in the UK). Spices and flavorings are also not included. This would increase the price per week considerably but it would be possible to survive on these basics for around 10 weeks for a total of around $150 per person.


Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (06/22/10 04:55 PM)

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