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#20238 - 10/17/03 07:29 PM Re: Seemed to me that even the 'good' stuff...
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To offer an explanation in part of their defense, the prices are in part because of small market demand. Their distribution network cannot move products in the same volume as a Campmor, etc.

And even at those high prices, the locol shop ownes who agree to carry the line don't make a lot of money the items either, plus they put out their cash to carry the inventory. So even if I don't by "official" BSA gear all the time, I do make an effort to support the stores that carry them when I need to buy items that are part of their regular line.
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#20239 - 10/17/03 07:34 PM Re: Boy Scout Survival Kit
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As Tom mentioned, BSA NAtional is not known for listening and taking action on suggestions. But I will try and see if they have a contact name and I will proffer my suggestion. At the least, I know several boys in my troop who I know will purchase the new kit once it's introduced. At $25 street price it's a steal!
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#20240 - 10/18/03 05:41 AM Re: Boy Scout Survival Kit
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My Scoutmaster had us scouts make their own kit. He explained how many commercially available kits are great, but most others (especially the usual cheap ones) are absolutely terrible. He had us make their own kit, explain what was in it, then we would help them with what they were lacking. Now it is required we take our kit with us on every hike, campout, ect along with a small first aid kit (also hand assembled). Most BSA equipment hasn't really impressed me. Especially in the knives department, the BSA Utility knife and Scout Knife which are the ones most every scout buys are hard to open/close, and have non-locking blades. Those factors combined has led to many stiches, a few in my own troop. Also, the regular BSA sharpening stone isn't that great and the BSA mess kit is pretty flimsey. These are things that are used pretty often, I would expect them to be a little bit better.

Doug, being a scout myself I would definately like to see your kit replace the "You Can Survive" kit.


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#20241 - 10/18/03 12:30 PM Re: Boy Scout Survival Kit
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#20242 - 10/18/03 12:40 PM Re: Boy Scout Survival Kit
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Paul,

There is no question that assembling your own kit has many advantages and is a great learning experience. OTOH, seems to me that if BSA is going to offer a product, especially something as critical as a survival kit, it should be of appropriate quality and practicality. But, what the heck do I know? <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I remain amazed that in this day and age BSA and others continue to promote folding knives with non-locking blades. <img src="images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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