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#201653 - 05/11/10 08:27 PM Looking again for super tarp
dweste Offline
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All I would like is a lightweight, thorn- and tear-proof, camo tarp, including numerous reinforced grommets and tie straps / loops, of course.

Suggestions?

Thanks.


Edited by dweste (05/11/10 08:28 PM)

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#201655 - 05/11/10 10:11 PM Re: Looking again for super tarp [Re: dweste]
boatman Offline
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Loc: Michigan
Take a look at bensbackwoods.com .Look under their shelter section...

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#201658 - 05/11/10 11:22 PM Re: Looking again for super tarp [Re: boatman]
Art_in_FL Offline
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Quote:
All I would like is a lightweight, thorn- and tear-proof, camo tarp, including numerous reinforced grommets and tie straps / loops, of course.


For any price point the requirement it be "lightweight" is going to conflict with "thorn- and tear-proof". You could spend a lot of money and get some spectra sailcloth that you could lift a tank with. Pinholes would be filed every year or two with seam sealer. But make sure you're sitting down when you look at the price. Lightweight Dacron sailcloth is a lot cheaper and might withstand UV longer.

Cheap tarps have advantages of their own. They are inexpensive enough that you can buy them in bulk and afford to replace them frequently enough to avoid the down side of their weaknesses. As they are replaced the worn ones can be used as ground clothes and used that are less demanding. This is a difference in degree not kind. Even the most expensive tarp, made of unobtainium and the souls of orphans, assembled by virgins using occult rites and cyclotrons, wear out eventually.

Camouflage is also problematic. First, because there is no universal pattern or color and second; because there is nothing that will get people to hike over to something and explore like an even marginally ineffective camouflage job. The act of concealment makes people wonder what your covering up. It also implies you're up to no good.

A neutral subdued color is often as effective as an actual camouflage pattern and it sends the message that your seeking to avoid visual pollution, not sneaking around.

The easiest specification is the "numerous reinforced grommets and tie straps / loops" these are pretty easy to make or install yourself. If you don't have the experience put it on your list of skills to learn. The US Army manual for canvas repair and Sailmaker's Apprentice are good sources.

Alternatively you can take it to a sailmaker's or cobbler shop. Some tailors or seamstresses might be sympathetic but their materials are usually much finer and they may damage their machines if they try to use them. Typically they just break needles but a stripped gear isn't impossible.

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#201660 - 05/11/10 11:46 PM Re: Looking again for super tarp [Re: Art_in_FL]
KenK Offline
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It doesn't cover the thorn/tear proof part (I think you'll need heavy duck canvas for that), and it doesn't come in camo (but it does come in what I call "Timberline green", but ...

In my own opinion, the Cook Custom Sewing (CCS) Tundra Tarp is one of the finest, best-thought-out camping tarps made ... decently priced too.

http://www.cookecustomsewing.com/tundratarp.htm

BTW, if you've never seen them, take a look at the CCS Leans:

http://www.cookecustomsewing.com/leans.htm

Though I don't have one yet, I really like this simple lightweight tarp/tent shelter design.

Ken

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#201662 - 05/11/10 11:58 PM Re: Looking again for super tarp [Re: dweste]
ponder Offline
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Registered: 12/18/06
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Loc: American Redoubt
Go into the local fabric shop with a sketch of what you want. Take a US GI Woodland Camo Poncho with you. They are about $35 new. Ask to see the US Military Woodland Camo poncho fabric. It is rip-stop nylon and coated. Ask the shop owner if she has someone she would recommend to sew for you. Tell them you want the seams, thread, corners, grommets and stress points to be sewn exactly like the poncho.

You will be very happy.


OR -


http://www.bensbackwoods.com Etowah Outfitters 12x10 Tarp Woodland Camo
Price: $52.98 + shipping when in stock


Edited by ponder (05/12/10 12:03 AM)
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#201680 - 05/12/10 03:30 PM Re: Looking again for super tarp [Re: Art_in_FL]
Compugeek Offline
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Registered: 08/09/09
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Loc: San Diego, CA
Originally Posted By: Art_in_FL
. . . made of unobtainium and the souls of orphans, assembled by virgins using occult rites and cyclotrons . . . .


That just begs to be used in a story! smile
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#201701 - 05/12/10 08:29 PM Re: Looking again for super tarp [Re: Compugeek]
Lono Offline
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Registered: 10/19/06
Posts: 1013
Loc: Pacific NW, USA
Take your tarp needs to 'Tarps R Us' - this place has a good variety in medium, heavy and super heavy thicknesses (7-8 to 40 Mil) - pick your poison and price point. https://www.tarpaflex.com/acatalog/Camouflage_Tarps3.html

Disclaimer: no benefit from tarpaflex to me, I bought a special tarp a while back and it came in as ordered; happy customer.

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#201705 - 05/12/10 10:29 PM Re: Looking again for super tarp [Re: dweste]
LED Offline
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Registered: 09/01/05
Posts: 1474
Looking through all the tarp links led me to tyvek. I had no idea people use it as a cover, shelter, ground cloth, etc. If you don't mind printing, Lowe's has tyvek homewrap 10'X100' roll for about $100 I think. Heck of a lot cheaper than the outdoor stores sell it. Of course its not camo but maybe with some cheap dye you could make it any color you want? Anyone know how UV resistant it is?

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#201720 - 05/13/10 03:56 AM Re: Looking again for super tarp [Re: LED]
Richlacal Offline
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Registered: 02/11/10
Posts: 778
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Home Depot sells Canvas tarps with a rubber type bottom.The canvas is white in color,& the rubber is a yellowish color.A 6'x15' goes for something like $22.00 It weighs about 4lbs. w/No grommets.Wally world sells Grommet kits,w/ the stamping rod&baseplate in Black,Silver, Antique brass colors for about $10.00,then all you would need is some spray paint(non-enamel) type= enamel doesn't hold up well to UV's for long terms.3 paint colors Olive drab,Flat Brown,Flat Black,about $5.00 per can,& for the final coat 1 can of Poly-urethane clear satin finish-Marine spar type,aprox.$15.00 Total for everything w /tax $60.00 & your time,would equal One Heck of a Masterpiece,you'd be proud to protect yourself with! Of course you would cut it to your specific size needs,& use the xtra pcs. for custom footprints,ground cover,etc. Just an Idea!I have No affiliation with, any of the above Retail establishments!

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#201749 - 05/13/10 04:28 PM Re: Looking again for super tarp [Re: Richlacal]
ILBob Offline
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Registered: 02/05/10
Posts: 776
Loc: Northern IL
A lot of places sell poly tarps in various colors. Often the smaller ones are on sale for less then $5.

A lot tougher and more waterproof IMO than Tyvek or canvas.

I have not tried it, but I have been told that you can dye Tyvek with Rit dye. Supposedly it mutes the bright white more than coloring it, but for most purposes it would be adequate. I have also heard stories of people using indelible inks to dye Tyvek. Don't know much about either process, other than occasional references to it here and there.
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