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#190456 - 12/11/09 01:29 AM Ultimate PSK Water Boiling Container
thseng Offline
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On a whim I added a stainless steel foil pouch to my last order for McMaster-Carr. They are used to protect metal parts during heat treating. The foil is only .002" thick but it is infinitely more robust than aluminum foil.

It has VERY sharp edges. I carefully folded over the foil on three sides with some pliers. There's not much you can do with the open end, so I would advise against trying to drink directly from it.

I used a needle to poke a small hole on each side of the open end to thread with some snare wire as a bail. The pouch I tried is 2.5"x5" and when puffed open, it holds just over 1/4 cup. A one of the wider sizes would probably be better, even if you cut it down to be shorter.

Here's a short video clip of the pouch in use: Ultimate PSK Water Boiling Container

As you can see, the edges are cool enough to hold within seconds of taking it out of the fire.

What do you think?

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#190472 - 12/11/09 04:23 AM Re: Ultimate PSK Water Boiling Container [Re: thseng]
Alex Offline
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Very nice! Can you carry it for some period of time in your PSK to see how it will withstand wear? Any ideas for the sharp edge cover? Perhaps a piece of duct tape will do?

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#190485 - 12/11/09 07:17 AM Re: Ultimate PSK Water Boiling Container [Re: Alex]
bigreddog Offline
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I was wondering about the pouch one of these comes in:

http://www.woodsmonkey.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=324:best-glide-ace-emergency-ration-pack&catid=36:misc-gear&Itemid=57

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#190489 - 12/11/09 08:15 AM Re: Ultimate PSK Water Boiling Container [Re: thseng]
MostlyHarmless Offline
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Originally Posted By: thseng
On a whim I added a stainless steel foil pouch to my last order for McMaster-Carr. They are used to protect metal parts during heat treating. The foil is only .002" thick but it is infinitely more robust than aluminum foil.


I think you are on to something that may prove viable... let it withstand the abuse of being part of your kit, and see how it stands up to that.


I suggest you make it just large enough to fit into whatever PSK container you're using - i.e. just a bit smaller than that container. You can also use tape (duct tape, electrician's tape) along the edges to prevent them from slicing up your gear. If you find a tape flavor of your liking, it may even prove helpful for drinking....

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#190527 - 12/11/09 04:34 PM Re: Ultimate PSK Water Boiling Container [Re: bigreddog]
Alex Offline
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Originally Posted By: bigreddog
I was wondering about the pouch one of these comes in:

http://www.woodsmonkey.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=324:best-glide-ace-emergency-ration-pack&catid=36:misc-gear&Itemid=57

That one looks like a plain plastic. I doubt it will allow to boil water. Especially having the aluminum cooking pan in it for that purpose.

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#190584 - 12/12/09 12:23 AM Re: Ultimate PSK Water Boiling Container [Re: Alex]
djlmwh Offline
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Registered: 06/10/08
Posts: 11
Loc: Oregon
Looks interesting. On the subject of containers for boiling water, why don't kit makers just give us a kit with a container that opens only on one end? Sure, capacity wouldn't be fantastic, but being able to easily boil small amounts of water to empty into a plastic bag from your kit seems like a good idea.

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#190588 - 12/12/09 12:45 AM Re: Ultimate PSK Water Boiling Container [Re: djlmwh]
dweste Offline
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Like a metal bandaid box?

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#190593 - 12/12/09 01:14 AM Re: Ultimate PSK Water Boiling Container [Re: dweste]
barbakane Offline
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Registered: 03/12/09
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I'm saving a foil CapriSun juice pouch for experimenting with as soon as possible. Have to convince the wife it's worth starting a fire to see if it can boil water without too much detriment. Has anyone tried this technique and succeeded?
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#190595 - 12/12/09 02:01 AM Re: Ultimate PSK Water Boiling Container [Re: barbakane]
Mark_M Offline
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Registered: 11/19/09
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Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: barbakane
I'm saving a foil CapriSun juice pouch for experimenting with as soon as possible. Have to convince the wife it's worth starting a fire to see if it can boil water without too much detriment. Has anyone tried this technique and succeeded?


I thought these were made of plastic (mylar?). Then again, on one of the survival guy cable shows, the guy showed you can boil water in a regular PET plastic bottle if you're careful about how close you get it to the fire.

I'm liking the metal Band-Aid box idea. Not much capacity but it would make a good PSK carrier and it's pocket-carry friendly. Rust would be a concern, as they are not stainless steel. Do they still make them? I can't remember seeing one in a long time.
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#190692 - 12/13/09 01:41 AM Re: Ultimate PSK Water Boiling Container [Re: Mark_M]
UpstateTom Offline
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What's the reason for a tiny amount of boiling water? I'm curious because for either melting snow or re-hydrating meals you don't need boiling and 1/2 c at a time is slow; and for water purification it's also slow.

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