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#182350 - 09/16/09 12:10 PM Re: CARRY A KNIFE. ALWAYS. EVERYWHERE. [Re: Kukulkan]
unimogbert Offline
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Registered: 08/10/06
Posts: 876
Loc: Colorado
I despair for the future of my country when a major aerospace firm whose employees have passed background checks for security clearances up to and including polygraphs, and who are largely military veterans, has a "no knives or multi-tools anywhere at any time" policy.

Next office move I'll call Security to come open the taped boxes for me. My fingernails aren't sharp enough for the job and teeth won't reach. I wonder what HR uses to open their packages?

Hey Al Queda- come and get us! We promise to surrender quickly! Just don't hurt us, ok? Would you like a teddy bear?

The Policy reminder-
" <subdiv> employees and affiliates (non-company employees) are reminded that they must know and adhere to all Corporate and <subdiv> security policies. Of particular note is Corporate Policy Statement xyzzy (Workplace Security) which outlines requirements for employee conduct and behavior, and prohibits weapons on <company> Property.

The inclusion of knives in <subdiv> policy xyzzy, (Prohibited Items), has recently raised several employee questions. To clarify, this prohibition applies to all knives, including pocket knives and multi-use tools that include a knife blade. Knives fall into the ‘weapons’ category, and as such, are not authorized on <company> property. The only exceptions granted are for employees and affiliates who require knives to perform work assigned to them by <company>. Violations of this policy may include disciplinary action, up to and including termination of employment.

Exceptions to xyzzy for knives required for the performance of <company>-sponsored work must be requested in writing to your Facility Security Officer, <name withheld>. "

#182351 - 09/16/09 12:41 PM Re: CARRY A KNIFE. ALWAYS. EVERYWHERE. [Re: unimogbert]
Russ Offline

Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5339
I would be looking for employment elsewhere.
Better is the Enemy of Good Enough.
Okay, what’s your point??

#182352 - 09/16/09 01:52 PM Re: CARRY A KNIFE. ALWAYS. EVERYWHERE. [Re: Russ]
unimogbert Offline
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Registered: 08/10/06
Posts: 876
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: Russ
I would be looking for employment elsewhere.

I expect that this is Standard Policy #xy from the HR Professionals List of Standards for All Companies Everywhere. Might even be an ISO standard or something. No sense changing employers only to find the same silliness at the next place.

There's a reason why I refer to them as the "Anti-Personnel Dept."

#182353 - 09/16/09 02:02 PM Re: CARRY A KNIFE. ALWAYS. EVERYWHERE. [Re: unimogbert]
barbakane Offline

Registered: 03/12/09
Posts: 205
Loc: Florida
If the security office needs written requests for permission to carry, perhaps you could have everyone wanting to carry write all at once.
If security is besieged by 50-100 (or more) requests all at the same time, they may reconsider. However, there is usually a clause in the employee conduct info, that states you can't petition other employees to join/participate in outside activity. Unfortunately, they may view this as such.
seeking to balance risk and reward
Audaces fortuna iuvat...fortune favors the bold
Practice methodical caution...Les Stroud

#182389 - 09/16/09 09:09 PM Re: CARRY A KNIFE. ALWAYS. EVERYWHERE. [Re: barbakane]
MoBOB Offline

Registered: 09/17/07
Posts: 1219
Loc: here
What a bunch of bozos! I agree, people who go play all the reindeer games of getting and maintaining security clearances and access privileges are the least of the companies worries. They are at more risk from corporate espionage. We have clearances walk a pretty circumspect life so that we can maintain those clearances. I repeat, what a bunch of bozos!
"Its not a matter of being ready as it is being prepared" -- B. E. J. Taylor

#182392 - 09/16/09 11:15 PM Re: CARRY A KNIFE. ALWAYS. EVERYWHERE. [Re: MoBOB]
DrmstrSpoodle Offline

Registered: 01/28/07
Posts: 138
Just watched the video. I think I'm gonna have nightmares for awhile.

#182393 - 09/16/09 11:39 PM Re: CARRY A KNIFE. ALWAYS. EVERYWHERE. [Re: DrmstrSpoodle]
scafool Offline

Registered: 12/18/08
Posts: 1534
Loc: Muskoka
Yes, to nightmares.
I read the follow up story ThSeng posted. The kid lost his ears and had other serious burns too. He was just released today on the 16 Sept.
That is a long time in hospital.
May set off to explore without any sense of direction or how to return.

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