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#178941 - 08/10/09 12:41 AM Grammar Groan
MartinFocazio Offline

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Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 2203
Loc: Bucks County PA
Today, for the first time ever, I corrected a post strictly because of a grammatical error. We all have our little quirks, I write professionally, so some things drive me batty. I'll let you in on my two "nails on a chalk board" writing errors.

1. Effect/Affect.

When I see something like this:

"The change to digital television didn't effect us, because we use cable TV." it's like I just heard a shotgun blast at three feet without my hearing protection.

The correct way to phrase that sentence is, "The change to digital television didn't affect us, because we use cable TV."

Think of it this way - effect is used to describe what the initiator of the action did, affect is use to describe what the action did.

So, for example, "The changes effected by the FCC to implement digital television have affected everyone who does not have cable television."

Or, "He effected changes to the office policies that affected everyone."

Or, "The affected areas will need to be decontaminated with an effective disinfectant."

Well, now that that's out of the way, let's move on to the next area that annoys me to no end.

2. Quotation mark abuse.

A pair of quotation mark is never used for emphasis:

Please do "not" close the door. (This is horrible).
The "fire exit" is to the left.

Quotation marks are used to indicate a quotation - like this:

"Marty seems to have gone off the deep end with his post about grammar on the equipped board", said co-moderator Charlie.

If you're not quoting someone, or to indicate a specific use of a phrase, then you are actually using quotes to negate your statement or to indicate sarcasm.

For example, you want to convey that a politician is not honest:

Well, we all know how "honest" he has been in office.

Or, when you want to indicate that something you're saying is intended as a sarcastic statement:

We just "love" when it rains all week long when camping out.

You can certainly know if you're abusing quotation marks by saying the words "So-called" or "it isn't really" or "not really" right where you see the first quote.

They make the (so-called)"best" cakes.

This way to see the (it isn't really) "finest" example of woodcraft.

Increase your energy with a (not really)"healthy" snack.


I strongly advise everyone to see http://www.unnecessaryquotes.com/
for many more examples.

Oh, my meds are kicking back in. OK, I'll stop now.

Thank you, carry on.




Edited by martinfocazio (08/10/09 12:43 AM)

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#178944 - 08/10/09 12:48 AM Re: Grammar Groan [Re: MartinFocazio]
scafool Offline
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Registered: 12/18/08
Posts: 1534
Loc: Muskoka
I think it is an affectation.
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#178947 - 08/10/09 01:02 AM Re: Grammar Groan [Re: scafool]
Lono Offline
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Registered: 10/19/06
Posts: 1013
Loc: Pacific NW, USA
Back in the 60's, I had a weather changing machine that was, in essence, a sophisticated heat beam which we called a "laser." Using these "lasers," we punch a hole in the protective layer around the Earth, which we scientists call the "Ozone Layer..."

the quotation mark thing might be a product of not having any great way to add emphasis to your thoughts. ex. 'I have a *big* problem with stinking feet'. Others might use quotation marks in lieu of *.

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#178959 - 08/10/09 03:09 AM Re: Grammar Groan [Re: MartinFocazio]
CANOEDOGS Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 1853
Loc: MINNESOTA

well from my point of view it's just a computer post and not a
ph.d paper.if i was any good and knew what i was doing i would have my own blog or be writing books.everyone gets the idea and over the web it's hard for many of us to get a point across or even spell everything right without the checker.i use the " or -- as sort of a replacement for body language.!!--

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#178962 - 08/10/09 04:20 AM Re: Grammar Groan [Re: MartinFocazio]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 3078

Well, its good to see that inappropriate apostrophes' don't affect you as you boldly go forward to express your disdain about inappropriate verbiage usage and quotations. whistle


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#178964 - 08/10/09 06:22 AM Re: Grammar Groan [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
Johno Offline
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Registered: 01/05/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Scotland
Must admit that one of my pet hates is abuse of the English language. If English isn't your first language its acceptable to make mistakes, as long as they aren't deliberate.

On another point TXT SPK MKS me want to take your phone off of you and shove it where the sun fails to shine.
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#178972 - 08/10/09 01:32 PM Re: Grammar Groan [Re: Johno]
GarlyDog Offline
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Registered: 04/05/07
Posts: 776
Loc: The People's Republic of IL
Something seems to cry fowl here. Irregardless, the goodest response from me would be to remain moot. Anyways, it's always gooder to here from you.
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#178979 - 08/10/09 02:26 PM Re: Grammar Groan [Re: NightHiker]
2005RedTJ Offline
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Registered: 01/07/09
Posts: 475
Loc: Birmingham, Alabama
I'm with JohnO. The one that kills me lately is people who post like they are texting. If you are too lazy to spell out the word "to" then perhaps the internet is too hard for you and you should just give up.

Example, girl gets a new car for her birthday. Her mom asks her how she felt about her birthday present. Her reply, to mom and others on the forum:

"yupp 09 Chevy cobalt.
and yes mom it was okayy cuz u know i wanted 2 spend the day with JD and tht didn't happen.
yes i know i went everywhere and thank you 4 taking me, but i still have sumthing tht i hafta do. and its 4rm me"

I at least get that "2" is easier to type than "to", marginally thought it may be. But, typing "yupp" instead of "yes" or "okayy" instead of "okay" means you are actually typing MORE than you have to. It's not cute like they think it is, it just makes them look stupid as well as lazy. Would you hire someone who filled out a job application with that nonsense? I know I wouldn't.


Edited by 2005RedTJ (08/10/09 02:27 PM)

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#178988 - 08/10/09 02:45 PM Re: Grammar Groan [Re: NightHiker]
GarlyDog Offline
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Registered: 04/05/07
Posts: 776
Loc: The People's Republic of IL
I take the opposite view. I think bad grammar can be funny, especially when it is tortured by a master such as Archie Bunker.

As long as I can decipher what a person is saying or means, I just go with the flow.

Besides, the natural order of things for people who correct others' grammar on the Internet is for them to flub up.


Edited by GarlyDog (08/10/09 04:42 PM)
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#178990 - 08/10/09 03:18 PM Re: Grammar Groan [Re: MartinFocazio]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 3078
Was the edit to change from the inappropriate verb (or would that be the noun) effect to affect the verb or the noun usage?

Quote:
The change to digital television didn't affect us, because we use cable TV.

The verb usage.

Quote:
The change to digital television didn't affect us, because we use cable TV.

The noun usage has a completely different meaning.

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