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#17245 - 06/21/03 05:25 PM Canteen cups
Anonymous
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I have some US military canteen cups with various codes between the 2 handles.

The 1st one is stainless steel weighs 244g and says "US RJS",
the 2nd one weighs 224g and says "US 88 PAC FAB",
the 3rd one weighs 238g and says "US 89 WWM"

Can anyone tell me what the codes mean?

The first is definitely stainless steel the other two have never been used,I'm not sure if they are aluminium they feel too heavy.
How can I tell what metal it without drilling a hole in them.

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#17246 - 06/21/03 06:55 PM Re: Canteen cups
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I believe that the US is for "United States", the other initials are that of the manufacturer, and the numbers represent the contract year ("88" = 1988) which may or may not be the year they were actually manufactured.

Chris

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#17247 - 06/21/03 07:46 PM Re: Canteen cups
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what if you got " ICO 55/56 " on your cups ? i don't even know from wich country they are, i do know they aren't britich or dutch cups....
the markings on mine cup stand is much more clearder: US 89 Pac. fab 8465-01-250-3632.... and i know that one is made from aluminium, no idea what the cups are....
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#17248 - 06/21/03 08:22 PM Re: Canteen cups
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Hmmm.

You have me on those. I would think that the "55'56" marking would mean that it is british. I think that they had a Type 55/56 kit designation but I could be wrong.

Chris

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#17249 - 06/21/03 09:10 PM Re: Canteen cups
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these cups looks like the american once, the british are a little diffrent shaped, right ?
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#17250 - 06/22/03 03:29 AM Re: Canteen cups
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To be honest, I am not sure. My father is a history buff and has done work/research for a military museum in the past. This is how I have gained what knowledge I have about military equipment. Maybe someone else here has a better answer.

Chris

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#17251 - 06/22/03 07:18 AM Re: Canteen cups
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Registered: 03/27/02
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I am not an expert but generally the US ones are either Aluminum (older versions) or Stainless in the newer versions. THey are generally curved to fit to your body better and match the canteen they fit in. The Brit pattern was "pattern 58" and they are more oblong and rounded if that makes sense. Here is a pic of the british version http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2180112417&category=588 The US cup looks like this in the aluminum version http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2180368462&category=4721 The differient letters you have found probably denote the company that actually made them. Hope that helps. akraven

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#17252 - 06/22/03 01:37 PM Re: Canteen cups
Ade Offline
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Ter,

All of those numbers and letters are gobbledygook to me, but if you have a magnet you should be able to tell which are steel and which are aluminum. I hope the method is obvious.


Take care,

Andy

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#17253 - 06/22/03 06:09 PM Re: Canteen cups
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ade, I have tried a magnet on the cup I know is stainless it's not magnetic.None of the others are magnetic either.

I"ve tried a heat test by boiling water in them ,the definitely stainless one takes a little longer to reach boiling point.The others don't feel like aluminium but they are a little lighter than the stainless one.

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#17254 - 06/23/03 03:34 AM Re: Canteen cups
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Ter,

You learn something new everyday. Maybe. I dug out my canteen cup and took a magnet to it. No go. So, ASSUMING (as I am), that the thing is made of stainless steel, not all SS's are magnetic.

My apologies if I insulted your intelligence. I thought anything called "steel" would be magnetic, even if there is a "stainless" in front of it. Some "stainless steels" are magnetic, some, apparently, aren't. Go figure.

Any metallurgists out there who can explain this? Slowly? In laymen's terms?

Take care,

Andy

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