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#167698 - 02/24/09 12:28 AM Re: My kids started a small fire today, without me [Re: Susan]
ironraven Offline
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Sue, that is like letting an addict loose in a poppy field. I'm sure Blast will attest to that. *laughs*

Absolutely they should be supervised. But they got it right, so I wouldn't be too hard on them. Something like a soft lecture and no dessert tonight. But I think that you can also use fire starting as a reward for other lessons, like navigation and rope craft.
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#167707 - 02/24/09 01:00 AM Re: My kids started a small fire today, without me [Re: ironraven]
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But I think that you can also use fire starting as a reward for other lessons, like navigation and rope craft.


Both our girls were potty trained by lettng them light and then blow out a candle whenever they successfully used the toilet. grin We'd light the match and direct there hand to the candle.

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#167753 - 02/24/09 01:57 PM Re: My kids started a small fire today, without me [Re: Blast]
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Originally Posted By: Blast
Both our girls were potty trained by lettng them light and then blow out a candle whenever they successfully used the toilet. grin We'd light the match and direct there hand to the candle.

-Blast, starting them young


Whew!!! Someone light a match! LOL... wink

That is great tho. Whatever it takes.
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#167758 - 02/24/09 02:39 PM Re: My kids started a small fire today, without me [Re: Mike_H]
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It may very well be that you've missed the opportunity to get them started with the proper respect. My brother and I were pyros, and we lit all kinds of fires growing up, some got out of control, some we were darned lucky we survived. Had I known then what I know now about some of the things I was doing, I would never have taken such risks. My parents had the attitude that out of sight was out of mind, and so long as we didn't cause trouble, they never really cared what we did. On the occasions where we did cause trouble, we went to the woodshed, but that was never an effective deterrent. All it did was teach us not to get caught doing bad things.

What helped me keep my kids from following the same path was to engage them, to take them out shooting, and have them clean the firearms for an hour or so afterwards, and show them what a bullet can do to a watermelon, or a jug of water, or a 2 x 4 so they get some perspective. More importantly, we have a good long talk about the rules and expectations, so they have no question in their mind about what is and isn't acceptable. I also kept an eye on them when I could. Same with making fire. Show them what a cup of gas does when thrown on the fire, take away some of the fascination and turn it into more of a chore. They become proficient and respectful.
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#167827 - 02/24/09 10:31 PM Re: My kids started a small fire today, without me [Re: Blast]
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Originally Posted By: Blast

Both our girls were potty trained by lettng them light and then blow out a candle whenever they successfully used the toilet.


That could be hazardous as they get older... smile

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#167914 - 02/25/09 11:52 PM Re: My kids started a small fire today, without me [Re: ki4buc]
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Everytime I go out into the woods with my 8 year old son we talk about something survival. Quite often we will start a fire with one method or another. We always talk about the rules and when it is ok and not ok to make one.
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#167915 - 02/25/09 11:56 PM Re: My kids started a small fire today, without me [Re: benjammin]
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Originally Posted By: benjammin
It may very well be that you've missed the opportunity to get them started with the proper respect. My brother and I were pyros, and we lit all kinds of fires growing up, some got out of control, some we were darned lucky we survived. Had I known then what I know now about some of the things I was doing, I would never have taken such risks.


My tool of choice for being stupid when I was a kid was my dad's black powder. Always a fun time with that stuff. I should have been dead a few times.
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