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#165882 - 01/31/09 10:16 PM New RAT Cutlery knife
Matt Offline
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Registered: 05/24/08
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http://www.ratcutlery.com/dpxgear.htm

Looks interesting. Evidently it was at the SHOT show. I can't find any info other than what is on their website.

Anybody have any additional info or thoughts?

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#165889 - 01/31/09 11:30 PM Re: New RAT Cutlery knife [Re: Matt]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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Kinda cute, but what the heck is a "Saw Point"???
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#165910 - 02/01/09 03:01 AM Re: New RAT Cutlery knife [Re: OldBaldGuy]
scafool Offline
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Registered: 12/18/08
Posts: 1534
Loc: Muskoka
I am starting to wonder if there is anybody who does not have a knife to sell.
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#165937 - 02/01/09 07:48 AM Re: New RAT Cutlery knife [Re: scafool]
Tom_L Offline
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Registered: 03/19/07
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LOL, my thoughts exactly.

I don't know about everybody else but if I had to pick a real hardcore survival knife, it sure wouldn't look anything like that thing.

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#165938 - 02/01/09 09:17 AM Re: New RAT Cutlery knife [Re: Tom_L]
bigreddog Offline
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Looks fine to me - loads of guys who walk the walk carry quite small blades. I like the pry hook at the end too (saves using the point of the blade for stuff)

It's marked as an 'at hand blade', which I think is the point - easy to carry, not obtrusive and there when you need it.

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#165939 - 02/01/09 09:23 AM Re: New RAT Cutlery knife [Re: Matt]
CDVXF7 Offline
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Registered: 02/25/07
Posts: 45
At first I was excited about it but the more I thought about it the more it looked gimmicky.
Ergonomic Design- Most knives are.
Saw point- Huh?
Wire Cutter- Where? If intended for copper, most knives can cut average copper wire.
Dual Vertical Lashing points- any knife can be lashed with enough cord.
Fulcrum Hinge Mounting point- Huh?
Inside/outside Hand grip- I guess for a brass knuckles type of use?
Designed for field sharpening- Huh? Ok, maybe the grind is simple as opposed to multi bevel etc. But most production knives are simple bevels.
Pry bar/scraper/hook- OK, with a kydex sheath on, I guess you could pry without cutting through the sheath from the leverage. Not a very "hooky" hook.
Open fighting grip- Ok, Saber or icepick hold I think.
Secret Storage Capsule- You all know where to keep that if you really want it to be kept secret..
Bottle opener- Big deal. If you can't open a bottle on the edge of a table, etc or by breaking the neck off, then your next trip should't involve being bombed, arrested(they'll take the knife away), kidnapped, crashed etc.
His picture and bio reminds me of Geraldo Rivera.
I'll bring my Leatherman Wave, to answer the question of what knife to bring. I do like the Izula though.

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#165940 - 02/01/09 09:32 AM Re: New RAT Cutlery knife [Re: Matt]
CDVXF7 Offline
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Registered: 02/25/07
Posts: 45
At hand blade is right. I use my little Buck Hartsook all day long. I have been thinking about the larger Izula, and keeping my eyes out for A Livesay NRGS which I think inspired the Izula.

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#165945 - 02/01/09 02:23 PM Re: New RAT Cutlery knife [Re: CDVXF7]
Hookpunch Offline
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Registered: 06/11/07
Posts: 128

It does look a little gimmicky, if it wasn't too expensive I might buy it, otherwise I think the money would be better spent on a more traditional knife.

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#165946 - 02/01/09 03:08 PM Re: New RAT Cutlery knife [Re: Hookpunch]
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
As soon as I can braid some pink paracord on my amazing Ginzu set I'll be writing up a field report from ever dangerous, exotic and situational fluid West Hollywood.

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#165948 - 02/01/09 03:26 PM Re: New RAT Cutlery knife [Re: bigreddog]
Tom_L Offline
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Registered: 03/19/07
Posts: 690
Originally Posted By: bigreddog
Looks fine to me - loads of guys who walk the walk carry quite small blades. I like the pry hook at the end too (saves using the point of the blade for stuff)

It's marked as an 'at hand blade', which I think is the point - easy to carry, not obtrusive and there when you need it.


There's nothing at all wrong with a small fixed blade. But I see absolutely no practical value in a knife like this with a skeleton handle.

IMHO any decent knife, especially one meant for serious use, must have a good grip. A skeletonized handle is structurally questionable and at best uncomfortable if not downright dangerous. I won't even comment on the super secret James Bond "capsule" or the overhyped marketing. And if you need paracord, it's better stored in your pocket - or wrapped around the sheath if you REALLY insist on wrapping it around something just for the hell of it.

Like I said, YMMV but in my book, a simple Mora is a billion times better survival knife than this gizmo (and many others just like it, there are plenty out there).

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