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#158969 - 12/18/08 08:03 PM A question about surviving...
JohnE Offline
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eons ago when I first started posting here, just kidding, it's only been a short time really, I mentioned that I was interested in the psychology of preparing for survival.

That interest kinda gave way to the rush of acquiring some cool gear, learning some stuff, reading some books, more time needing to be spent at work, etc. But I'd like to revisit it, and put a question or two out to the group here at large.

How many of you, either consciously or way back in the dark recesses of your mind wish that something would happen so you could test out some of your theories and your gear? I don't mean going camping and finding out that that the 20 degree sleeping bag is really a 40 degree sleeping bag, I mean an actual survival situation.

And, how many of you have pushed themselves past either a psychological or a physical or even an equipment limitation in order to see what would happen? Ever confronted someone cause you knew that you were better equipped to do so because of your training/gear? Ever wish you had? Ever wish you hadn't?

I'm asking cause in reading some other "survivalist" forums I read an underlying theme of disillusioned people hoping for some sort of apocalyptic/personal confrontation event to take place in order to prove themselves and I don't get the same sort of feel from things I read here.

I'm not writing a book, nor am I accumulating data for a research paper, I'm just an amateur psychologist interested in why people do the things that they do.

Private or public replies, your choice, private replies will remain so, I promise.

JohnE
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#158971 - 12/18/08 08:13 PM Re: A question about surviving... [Re: JohnE]
Nishnabotna Offline
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Originally Posted By: JohnE


I'm asking cause in reading some other "survivalist" forums I read an underlying theme of disillusioned people hoping for some sort of apocalyptic/personal confrontation event to take place in order to prove themselves and I don't get the same sort of feel from things I read here.


That's mostly because this isn't a survivalist forum.

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#158972 - 12/18/08 08:18 PM Re: A question about surviving... [Re: Nishnabotna]
dweste Offline
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Registered: 02/16/08
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Loc: Central California
I prepare to avoid problems but be able to cope better than the average bear. I also have a small irrational belief there is a little mojo working to scare problems away before they materialize if you are prepared.

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#158975 - 12/18/08 08:26 PM Re: A question about surviving... [Re: JohnE]
Andy Offline
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Registered: 09/13/07
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Well, that's a deep subject...

(Sorry, my wife teaches 3rd grade, that's the level of humor to which I am constantly exposed)

But not a bad question. I think it's a thought that occurs to some or maybe even many of us. Folks who are outdoors a lot for fun or work test their gear all the time; sometimes on purpose, sometimes not. We suburbanite deskjockies may have a Walter Mitty view of holding civilization together when disaster strikes but have no experience in actually doing so.

Do I secretly wish to actually being lost in the woods, or have my car slip into snow covered gully, or fight aliens or zombies just to have a 'learning' experience? Absolutely not!

I prepare for all those things (well, for space aliens and zombies, not so much). But if most of my gear never needs using I'll be ok with that.

Preparation, both physical and mental, for me is a way to provide for my family and challenge my brain so that when stuff happens I've got a chance. At least survival situations, on the wild chance they may occur, won't be a foreign concept. But I ain't about to go looking for one.
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#158976 - 12/18/08 08:27 PM Re: A question about surviving... [Re: Nishnabotna]
TheSock Offline
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there was a thread not long ago about some chap who deliberately put himself in danger motor biking in the desert. the virtual unaminous verdict on this site was that he was an idiot.
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#158979 - 12/18/08 08:28 PM Re: A question about surviving... [Re: JohnE]
Jeff_M Offline
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Registered: 07/18/07
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Loc: Northwest Florida
Originally Posted By: JohnE
How many of you, either consciously or way back in the dark recesses of your mind wish that something would happen so you could test out some of your theories and your gear? I don't mean going camping and finding out that that the 20 degree sleeping bag is really a 40 degree sleeping bag, I mean an actual survival situation.


Nope. Since I'm in the disaster response business, I get regular exposure to the receiving end of that which has been through the spinning impeller. I also have occasion to risk my one asterisk semi-regularly. I'm not looking for more, although I have pondered this same question.

Originally Posted By: JohnE
And, how many of you have pushed themselves past either a psychological or a physical or even an equipment limitation in order to see what would happen?


Yes, but in pursuit of other goals, and never just to see what might happen.

Jeff

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#158985 - 12/18/08 08:59 PM Re: A question about surviving... [Re: JohnE]
wildman800 Offline
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An interesting question,,,,,

I don't "hope" or "expect" a TEOTWAWKI situation. I am afraid that an EMP incident is going to occur in our future, during my lifetime.

Things do seem to happen in my vicinity, HazMat incidents, Hurricanes, Auto Accidents, Persons blowing themselves up inside of small pick up trucks, etc.

Past colleagues have described the "Bo Zone" as a disaster zone that occurs more than 3 feet from my body and not more than 500 yards from my body. Because of the "Bo Zone", my experience dictates that I be prepared for anything!!!!
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#158988 - 12/18/08 09:14 PM Re: A question about surviving... [Re: wildman800]
MDinana Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
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Loc: Deep south... Carolina
I've never "confronted" anyone, but I have had discussions with camping partners before we go - usually delegation of supplies and such, and their lack of stuff when appropriate.

Do I hope for something? Well, my dad thinks I do wink But really, I think it's odd that so many things happen when I'm not around. For example, the big east coast blackout happened a month after I moved from Philly. Most of the big fire seasons in CA happen when I'm not around - conversely, while CA is under ridiculous amounts of snow, here in Detroit there's about 2 inches on the ground (though more coming in). I wonder if I'm prepared enough for, say, a week long blackout. I don't "hope" for it, but I'd be curious. The best way to find out, of course, is just not use any electricity for a week, but I haven't done that.

I've never intentionally pushed myself, but occasionally stuff happens. I've gotten lucky so far, and in all fairness, I don't think some of those things wouldn't have been helped by being prepared.

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#158992 - 12/18/08 09:30 PM Re: A question about surviving... [Re: JohnE]
Blast Offline
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Registered: 07/15/02
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Loc: Spring, Texas
Hmmm, I really don't want to break my leg while alone in the woods but I have to admit sometimes when I'm being crushed at work I fantasize about some sort of big "reset" button being pushed tossing us all back to an agrarian existence where I rule everyone with a strong but merciful fist. Also, there's only one guy for every twenty women but that might just be a mid-life crisis sort of thing.

-Blast, currently being crushed at work

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#158995 - 12/18/08 09:40 PM Re: A question about surviving... [Re: Blast]
Desperado Offline
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Forty right?
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