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#148633 - 09/12/08 02:42 PM Re: revealing the best survival book and instructor [Re: Chris Kavanaugh]
thseng Offline
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Registered: 03/24/06
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Originally Posted By: Chris Kavanaugh
All books have the potential of repeating 'fossilised' popular myth and error. The proliferation of solar still illustrations tells me a great many 'experts' have no true experience with the things.This is a danger, if, after reading 5 survival books promoting solar stills you accept them as truth.

You'll find the leantoo shelter w/ reflector fire on the next page. You'll notice the survivor is never depicted IN the leantoo. He's off gathering more firewood AGAIN. True, it does keep him warm be he doesn't get any sleep.
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#148660 - 09/12/08 05:43 PM Re: revealing the best survival book and instructor [Re: Chris Kavanaugh]
TheSock Offline
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Originally Posted By: Chris Kavanaugh
No, Chris was condemning the various personaes in the survival community that donn images along with misinformation like solar stills and print up brochures as the noble savage, grizzled combat vet or hi tech mountaineer who wears glacier glasses 24/7.

When I establish the Ritternaugh School of Outdoor AND indoor survival ( we found an untapped niche market), corner table of the breakfast cafe in Showlow Arizona ( the one closest to the Men's room and with a panaoramic view of the main road and approaching state troopers) My distinctive outfit wil be Harris tweed Plus Fours.


Sorry Chris I still don't understand. Are you saying these materials don't work? Did buckskin ever?
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#148676 - 09/12/08 07:56 PM Re: revealing the best survival book and instructor [Re: Stu]
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Yup. In CA, anything wider than 1/2" is illegal. Total side obstruction by a leather gizmo is a major no-no...
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#148678 - 09/12/08 07:59 PM Re: revealing the best survival book and instructor [Re: OldBaldGuy]
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What about goggles?
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#148681 - 09/12/08 08:08 PM Re: revealing the best survival book and instructor [Re: benjammin]
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Kinda depends on the goggles, but the section, as I remember it, specifically mentioned side pieces on glasses. There is a separate section for vision obscurement, that can be anything that blocks the drivers vision...
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#148682 - 09/12/08 08:16 PM Re: revealing the best survival book and instructor [Re: OldBaldGuy]
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I was just making with sarcasm on the clothing. But as an aside, buckskin is not all it's cracked up to be as a single clothing item. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's also EXPENSIVE to dress like a frontiersman suffering from scurvey and consumption! I think you are looking @ 3-4 figures for a set.
Most primal peoples paired it with linen, wool or furs.

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#148683 - 09/12/08 08:18 PM Re: revealing the best survival book and instructor [Re: Chris Kavanaugh]
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I like that Jeremiah Johnson winter look. Must be nice wearing 200 rabbit, weasel, and fox skins all the time.
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#148692 - 09/12/08 10:16 PM Re: revealing the best survival book and instructor [Re: benjammin]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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How 'bout the look of that guy old Jeremiah got his Hawken from? He looked pretty cold to me...
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#148699 - 09/12/08 11:00 PM Re: revealing the best survival book and instructor [Re: benjammin]
Todd W Offline
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Originally Posted By: benjammin
I like that Jeremiah Johnson winter look. Must be nice wearing 200 rabbit, weasel, and fox skins all the time.


You`d have some strong legs and a back or none at all wink
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#148719 - 09/13/08 02:04 AM Re: revealing the best survival book and instructor [Re: Chris Kavanaugh]
Frankie Offline
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As far as I know leathers like buckskin is good as a wind breaker but like nylon it conducts cold so you need a layer of insulation underneath.

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