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#143795 - 08/12/08 02:50 AM Re: Basic survival skills? [Re: thseng]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
Be willing and able to change your original plans, maybe several times, when you recognize that the game isn't going the way you thought it was. New facts, new conditions, or unplanned results of previous decisions (good or bad), are going to change the whole game. Insisting on slogging onward, following the original plan when it's gone bad, is not a good idea. (i.e., like when the GPS says 'Go forward' when you're posed at the edge of a cliff.)

Learn to stop when you're lost. Don't keep going and get more lost.

If you're with a group, someone else may make themselves leader. Don't blindly follow them without consideration. Like your mother always said: "If they jumped off a cliff, would you do it, too?"

Ladies, that means YOU, too! Just because the guy is a guy doesn't mean he knows what is best. YOU have a brain, so be sure to use it. (Whispers: The vast majority of Darwin Award winners and nominees are male. Remember that!)

Sue.......................... Who, ME?

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#143797 - 08/12/08 02:59 AM Re: Basic survival skills? [Re: Susan]
Jeff_M Offline
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Registered: 07/18/07
Posts: 665
Loc: Northwest Florida
Originally Posted By: Susan
Be willing and able to change your original plans, maybe several times, when you recognize that the game isn't going the way you thought it was. New facts, new conditions, or unplanned results of previous decisions (good or bad), are going to change the whole game. Insisting on slogging onward, following the original plan when it's gone bad, is not a good idea. (i.e., like when the GPS says 'Go forward' when you're posed at the edge of a cliff.)


Well said! Stubbern persistance in the face of changing circumstances is often a recipe for disaster.

Jeff

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#143798 - 08/12/08 03:02 AM Re: Basic survival skills? [Re: thseng]
CANOEDOGS Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 1853
Loc: MINNESOTA

in my neck of the North Woods--pines and lakes--i would say
the ability to get a good fire going in any weather is #1..
then a shelter to get of the weather which can turn cold and
wet even in the summer..and of course all the "don't panic"
mine-set stuff..















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#143801 - 08/12/08 03:07 AM Re: Basic survival skills? [Re: Susan]
Lono Offline
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Registered: 10/19/06
Posts: 1013
Loc: Pacific NW, USA
Everyone else is so close to what I'd say that you don't need me mucking it up - but I will.

Laurence Gonzales' book. Read it, learn it, live it. Read it well enough so that you can remember the lessons of other survivors, because their strengths were almost always mental. The book has lots of good insights into the psychology of survival, you can read it and be convinced that you have what it takes to survive too.

Know approximately where you are, always. That goes for during air travel as well. Between that and the north star, you'll never be entirely lost, just on extended walkabout.

Have a definite mental picture of your survival, whether it is hours or days or weeks away, and how you will help to make it happen. Don't doubt yourself too much. Keep your focus positive, and on the here and now as much as possible. One day, one moment at a time.

Concentrate on the basics - shelter, warmth (protection from the elements), water, food. Increase the odds of rescue by as many signalling methods as you can devise.

The ability to improvise, and adapt. The ability to change plans when the original plan doesn't work out the way you thought.

The ability to listen to others, as well as to lead, to the best of your ability. The ability to tell others when you don't know what to do, to seek counsel, but the will to act on good advice quickly. The life you save could be your own. I firmly believe that outdoor leadership isn't a matter of bringing every one along with you, power of will is for suckers and dead people; its keeping everyone with you alive, whether they choose to follow you or not.

Know your limitations. Stay within your training, except in moments of extreme danger when the safe path would get you or someone you are with killed.

Make mistakes. Learn from them, and move on.

Always tell a loved one of your plans, and when you will report in.

Keep a PLB by your side, and most often the rest of this won't factor in for too long. Its the best $500-600 you never spent on that fancy sleeping bag or tent instead.

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#143802 - 08/12/08 03:12 AM Re: Basic survival skills? [Re: Lono]
Lono Offline
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Registered: 10/19/06
Posts: 1013
Loc: Pacific NW, USA
Oh, forgot the most important one. Think of your loved ones. If they're not there with you in body, they will definitely be there in spirit, they want you home. Gonzales speaks of this as motivation to survive, to see your child or nephew or spouse's smile just one more time. I hope everyone has such a powerful motivation.

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#143803 - 08/12/08 03:13 AM Re: Basic survival skills? [Re: Lono]
Jeff_M Offline
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Registered: 07/18/07
Posts: 665
Loc: Northwest Florida
I gotta get that book. Been meaning to . . .

Jeff

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#143805 - 08/12/08 03:25 AM Re: Basic survival skills? [Re: Jeff_M]
Lono Offline
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Registered: 10/19/06
Posts: 1013
Loc: Pacific NW, USA
Originally Posted By: Jeff_McCann
I gotta get that book. Been meaning to . . .

Jeff


Few excuses left - I saw it in paperback the other day.

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#143808 - 08/12/08 03:42 AM Re: Basic survival skills? [Re: Lono]
big_al Offline
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Registered: 01/04/06
Posts: 586
Loc: 20mi east of San Diego

the ability to break things down to it's basic actions. (you don't need a knife to cut something, a sharp rock will work. a vine will tie up something just like a rope or twine.) Your brain use it.

_________________________
Some people try to turn back their odometers.
Not me, I want people to know "why" I look this way
I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved

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#143810 - 08/12/08 03:49 AM Re: Basic survival skills? [Re: AROTC]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
Ignore/work thru adversity...
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#143818 - 08/12/08 04:18 AM Re: Basic survival skills? [Re: OldBaldGuy]
MDinana Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 2208
Loc: Beer&Cheese country
Bah! You're all nuts. You just need to be a smooth-talking schmoozer. If you can't figure something out, you can talk someone into either teaching your or giving it to you. That's right, baby, better survival through conning others!

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