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#140241 - 07/18/08 01:17 PM Re: Dog defense? [Re: sodak]
OldBaldGuy Offline

Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
"..."neck snap" method...it works..."

Really? Great, I have always wondered if it would. Did the "snapper" suffer any bad bites???

#140248 - 07/18/08 01:28 PM Re: Dog defense? [Re: RayW]
benjammin Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 4018
Loc: Anchorage AK
Well, it has been a while since I did the poor man's flamethrower with a can. In that case, switch to Justice Brothers Green Label Carb Cleaner. Even if you don't get it ignited, the chemicals alone might be enough to fully inebriate the beast. We used to go after hornet's nests with a can or two; the hornets would pop out of their nest, we'd zotz them and they'd be curled up and dead before they hit the ground, not even a twitch left in them. Better'n any wasp spray I ever used.

One more thing, a guard dog behind a fence can almost always be baited off of an attack. It might take a 5 lb chunk of meat, but once they get their mouths on it, especially if someone keeps a hold of the other end, they likely will refuse to let go, allowing the trespassers to come and go. Fresh pigskin fatback is preferable, as it won't rip apart easily, and is nigh irresistable. Once they start doing the tug of war with you, they become nearly oblivious to anything else. It takes a really well trained dog to overcome such a distraction.
The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.
-- Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)

#140257 - 07/18/08 02:23 PM Re: Dog defense? [Re: benjammin]

+1 on that. Products like Brakleen (and the older, more powerful, no longer available because too many mechanics had no skin on their hands anymore products) are chok full of chemicals that will kill just about anything...including you if you stay in contact with them long enough.

My dad's secret stash also has a can of old contact cleaner...Lectri...something. He uses it on hornets and locks it away so it can't be used for it's intended purpose smile

#140304 - 07/18/08 08:40 PM Re: Dog defense? [Re: OldBaldGuy]
sodak Offline

Registered: 03/20/05
Posts: 410
Originally Posted By: OldBaldGuy
"..."neck snap" method...it works..."

Really? Great, I have always wondered if it would. Did the "snapper" suffer any bad bites???

Yes, but he resigned himself to it before performing the manuever. It was in a city park in Washington, DC, with the owner right there. He told the owner several times to call off the dog, and the owner laughed at him. The dog was circling and nipping. When it came in for the kill, it was in for a BIG surprise.

The owner went ballistic, and called 911. The police arrested the owner. Nice to see some justice done, even in DC.

He later told my sister that he got that training many years ago, snipers hate dogs, very hard to hide from them. He always wondered if it would work. It did. He required stitches, but no major damage.

If there had been 2, now, I'd want that .303 and a bucket loader!!!!

As an aside, I have another sister who swears by the artificial lemons you get in the grocery store. One shot in the face with that, then all you have to do is show them the lemon, and they scatter... I've never tried that yet myself.

Edited by sodak (07/18/08 08:42 PM)

#140309 - 07/18/08 09:28 PM Re: Dog defense? [Re: KG2V]
BrianB Offline

Registered: 07/16/08
Posts: 99
Originally Posted By: kc2ixe

(there was about 75-80 dogs in the pack).

Now that's scary.

#140312 - 07/18/08 09:37 PM Re: Dog defense? [Re: dweste]
red Offline

Registered: 02/24/07
Posts: 175
Originally Posted By: dweste
But a decent hand gun, with all that goes with it, had been far down my list. And steel-toed boots were not on my list at all; I will consider them.

I'm wondering what you mean by "all that goes with it." The responsibility, cost, CCW, training? For me, being able to defend myself is THE most critical aspect for survival when faced with an imminent threat. I can't imagine NOT investing time and money for that level of protection. Having spray is nice, but sometimes you have to go to DEFCON IV.

Just sayin'...
When the SHTF, no one comes out of it smelling pretty.

#140313 - 07/18/08 09:54 PM Re: Dog defense? [Re: OldBaldGuy]
Blast Offline
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Registered: 07/15/02
Posts: 3556
Loc: Spring, Texas
Do it! But how are you gonna figure out the nutritional rate of June Bugs???

Nutritional Value of Various Insects per 100 grams

-Blast: the all knowing, the all eating
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I miss OBG.

#140314 - 07/18/08 09:55 PM Re: Dog defense? [Re: red]
wildman800 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 2744
Loc: La-USA
Hey Red:

DefCon V: Peace in the Kingdom

DefCon IV: Peacetime Steaming at sea
Expect hostilities in 48 hrs

DefCon III: Expect Hostilities in 24 Hrs

DefCon II: Expect Hostilities in 12 Hrs

DefCon I: Hostilities have commenced.
The best luck is what you make yourself!

#140322 - 07/18/08 10:41 PM Re: Dog defense? [Re: sodak]
OldBaldGuy Offline

Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
"...he resigned himself to it before performing the manuever..."

That is a given. Kinda like a knife fight, ya gotta expect to get cut...

#140323 - 07/18/08 10:44 PM Re: Dog defense? [Re: Blast]
OldBaldGuy Offline

Registered: 09/30/01
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Cool. Now all I gotta figure out is what a gram equals.

OBG, who doesn't do metric...

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