#137816 - 06/26/08 06:01 PM
Re: Outward Bound hikers lost
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quakedog, a new poster. Welcome. Stick around.
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#137850 - 06/26/08 09:16 PM
Re: Outward Bound hikers lost
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#137864 - 06/26/08 11:45 PM
Re: Outward Bound hikers lost
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Welcome Newguy!!!
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#137917 - 06/27/08 02:15 PM
Re: Outward Bound hikers lost
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Registered: 04/04/07
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Courierdebois,
What is your background in outdoor survival?
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#137931 - 06/27/08 03:59 PM
Re: Outward Bound hikers lost
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I have seen the operating costs involved. The tuition, like most private non-profit schools, doesn't cover the expenses. Outward Bound relies on donations, mostly from alumnus.
The issue gear is the most basic (tarps, cookpots, packs, inexpensive sleeping bags etc.). Food is typical thru-hiker fare (noodles, rice, dried veggies and fruit, canned meat and soy) This is done partly for expense and partly to teach students how to make the most with little and appreciate what they have.
I believe NOLS is the same way. I spent a summer working out of Lander, and everybody I met were salt of the earth people. I didn't see any animosity, even got invited to a sundance ceremony.
At fundraisers for the scholarship programs, I have seen instructors donate part or all of their summers wages. It is something they believe in.
One other thing, OB pays commercial fees to the forest service and national parks just like the horse packers etc. and it can be hundreds of dollars for a one week trip.
I hope I am not just egging on a troll.
Edited by clearwater (06/27/08 04:19 PM)
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#137944 - 06/27/08 06:11 PM
Re: Outward Bound hikers lost
[Re: clearwater]
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We've got your back clearwater!
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#138030 - 06/28/08 05:23 PM
Re: Outward Bound hikers lost
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Implying someone is a fool or lying is trollish.
What part of private non profit don't you get?
I've had quite a few kids from all over the country and the world. From Inuit kids from Pt Barrow to kids from Panama. Worked with instructors that were were black, latino, American Indian. Some polite hillbillies too. I find it offputting that you denigrate the ranchers and others in Wyoming too.
Besides being ignorant of the topic you're inflammatory.
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#138052 - 06/28/08 08:07 PM
Re: Outward Bound hikers lost
[Re: clearwater]
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In regard to "courierdebois" comments about joining the military reserves to get "ranger training" I could be wrong but I don't think any reserve unit in the U.S. military is gonna get "ranger training" doing 1 weekend a month and a week of summer camp.
Other than that, he/she/it is pretty entertaining to read...some serious anger issues going on I think, but as I wrote above, I could be wrong...;^)
John E
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#138070 - 06/29/08 12:37 AM
Re: Outward Bound hikers lost
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"...entertaining to read..."
I am "entertained" (when I have nothing better to do) counting the misspellings and made up words, not to mention the lack of caps...
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