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#135004 - 06/06/08 06:42 PM Re: Tool of Choice [Re: Alex]
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I'm not sure the original post mentioned a need to baton trees or gut fish. The post seems to refer to an urban environment. There's also no hint of an anti-knife tirade.

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#135008 - 06/06/08 07:24 PM Re: Tool of Choice [Re: dougwalkabout]
Alex Offline
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Nothing personal really. However, a sudden guest of the forum may note the very broad name of the Topic and carry out a wrong impression that EMT snips are the ultimate tool for any job. Some means of confronting that idea wouldn't hurt that much. I simply gave some examples of the scissors physical and constructional weaknesses, one should be aware of (i.o.w. it's not really necessary to button the wood wit scissors to bend them badly).

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#135011 - 06/06/08 07:43 PM Re: Tool of Choice [Re: Mike_H]
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Originally Posted By: Mike_H
So, how about a list of what EMT shears would be good for in the great outdoors? Besides cutting a penny in half... I love being able to do that for some strange reason...

In addition to first aid related tasks, EMT shears can also do the following:

Cut through the stainless steel utility wire in the Pocket Survival Pack (I have done that with my EMT shears)
Cut through a seat belt (I have never tried that but I read that it is doable)
Open up boxes and even the most stubborn packages (done that)
Cut duct tape (done that too)

Jeanette Isabelle
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#135012 - 06/06/08 07:46 PM Re: Tool of Choice [Re: MDinana]
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Originally Posted By: MDinana
Originally Posted By: nursemike
Scissors are faster and safer than knives for:
... edited for length...

Unless you happen to be running with them laugh

EMT shears have a blunt tip.

Jeanette Isabelle
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#135013 - 06/06/08 07:59 PM Re: Tool of Choice [Re: Alex]
nursemike Offline
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Originally Posted By: Alex
Originally Posted By: MDinana

Unless you happen to be running with them laugh

laugh Knife will make just one hole in you on impact, scissors - two?


which in turn emphasizes the offenive/defensive capabilities of scissors: "Freeze, dirtbag, or I'll snip!"

Item 2: while not effective for batoning wood or gutting fish, scissors are excellent for gutting wood and batoning fish.
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#135014 - 06/06/08 08:03 PM Re: Tool of Choice [Re: nursemike]
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Fish can be gutted with scissors just fine. EMT shears might make a mess of things but I've disemboweled a trout with scissors.

They also work great for doing the same with poultry. Snipping through chicken bones doesn't do wonders for the edge of a knife but scissors don't seem to care. EMT shears would make short work of quartering fowl in a survival situation.

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#135016 - 06/06/08 08:11 PM Re: Tool of Choice [Re: Alex]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Originally Posted By: Alex
-can be easily bent sideways and became useless, don't try splitting wood with them

I never said they could. Since the point I made is that a pair of EMT shears is the best tool for me and my environment, why would I use them on wood when I don't work with wood?

Originally Posted By: Alex
-have a hinge which is easy to break or lose

No they don't. I've had one pair of EMT shears for a couple of years and I have never encountered that problem.

Originally Posted By: Alex
-not very effective for throwing at a target

Why would I throw anything at a target?

Originally Posted By: Alex
-usually very prone to rust

That is not true. EMT shears are made with stainless steel.

Originally Posted By: Alex
-became dull very quickly (if used on wire or sheet metal)

EMT shears are semi-disposable. If they get old, replace them.

Originally Posted By: Alex
-harder to clean from dirt (because of the hinge)

That's odd, I have never encountered that problem before. Then again, I don't throw my shears in the dirt.

Jeanette Isabelle
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#135017 - 06/06/08 08:17 PM Re: Tool of Choice [Re: dougwalkabout]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
There's also no hint of an anti-knife tirade.

Why would someone who is pro-gun be anti-knife?

Jeanette Isabelle
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#135019 - 06/06/08 08:24 PM Re: Tool of Choice [Re: Jeanette_Isabelle]
MDinana Offline
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Originally Posted By: JeanetteIsabelle
Originally Posted By: MDinana
Originally Posted By: nursemike
Scissors are faster and safer than knives for:
... edited for length...

Unless you happen to be running with them laugh

EMT shears have a blunt tip.

Jeanette Isabelle


You're right. However, Nursemike never specified EMS shears.

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#135020 - 06/06/08 08:42 PM Re: Tool of Choice [Re: Alex]
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Originally Posted By: Alex
Nothing personal really. However, a sudden guest of the forum may note the very broad name of the Topic and carry out a wrong impression that EMT snips are the ultimate tool for any job.

I don't see how a guest would get that impression when a pocket knife is so often proclaimed as the ultimate, universal tool for everybody and every situation. There are two facts we need to keep in mind.

1. A pocket knife is not the primary tool for everybody and every situation.
2. A pair of EMT shears is not the primary tool for everybody and every situation.

Once you got all that figured out then there is no problem.

Originally Posted By: Alex
Some means of confronting that idea wouldn't hurt that much.

I completely agree.

Jeanette Isabelle
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