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#131902 - 05/02/08 09:50 PM Pandemic implications by academics and businesses
OIMO Offline
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The post referencing the how fragile modern Networked Ecomonies are by martinfocazio and the article in New Scientist magazine made me go and find a copy, as Martin says it makes interesting reading.

However alongside it is a related article looking at the impact of a pandemic, with quotes from various academics and the likes of Jon Lay, head of global emergency preparedness for ExxonMobil it is fairly levelheaded, but it makes for disturbing reading. These are some of the key points:

1) Most cities only have three days supply of food on hand
2) US plans for a pandemic call for people to store 3 weeks of food and water
3) Some planners think people should have 10 weeks worth
4) However stockpiling once it begins will not be achievable or affordable
5) Most (US) hopitals only have two days worth of Oxygen supplies on hand with blood and drugs not too far behind.
6) Absenteeism is the big worry, either through people being ill or staying away from work to avoid catching the illness [this is acknowledged as the best thing to do if you want to avoid it]
7) Absenteeism will mean that critical distribution and transport networks will break down
8) Many businesses expect their staff to be able to work online from home in a crisis, however models show there will not be enough bandwidth to go around
9) Absenteeism will also mean that critical industrial processes and sites will need to be shutdown due to safety concerns of running them with insufficient staff*
10) If the power goes off** for an extended period of time (days) then you have industrial refrigeration failures, water purification system failures, etc. The longer it is off the greater the knock on effect.

* As the recent precautionary shutdown of the Grangemouth oil refinery in Scotland in advance of strike action by one of the unions on site illustrated. They only expected around 30% of the staff to be on strike but said they could not operate the plant safely with that number absent. It also shutdown the Natural Gas distribution network that flows through the site from the North Sea into the UK network.

** Due to lack of staff, or lack of say, coal, due to transport issues.

The article goes on to say most of the models assume death rates the same as the mild 1957 and 1968 pandemics or occasionally the 1918 pandemic [the latter assumes a 3% mortality rate or 142 million deaths worldwide]. However to date H5N1 has a mortality rate of 63 per cent in humans. To quote one of the academics "It is negligent to assume that if H5N1 bird flu goes pandemic that it will become less deadly".


Edited by OIMO (05/02/08 09:50 PM)
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#131906 - 05/02/08 11:18 PM Re: Pandemic implications by academics and businesses [Re: OIMO]
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You've put together a very nice concise list of the practical social implications of a pandemic hitting the states (and the rest of the world for that matter).

The overall logistics required concerning containment and quarantine are going to leave a great number of hungry people huddling together in cold dark houses.

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#131907 - 05/02/08 11:33 PM Re: Pandemic implications by academics and businesses [Re: wildman800]
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Exxon Mobile, the fine folks who trashed Alaska with the Exxon Valdez and a DUI skipper. 'nough said.

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#131917 - 05/03/08 12:43 AM Re: Pandemic implications by academics and busines [Re: Chris Kavanaugh]
MoBOB Offline
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I was up there when it happened and yes, people were pretty ticked at EM for the whole thing. The good thing was seeing all the volunteers who pitched in to do what they could. Cut the guy a break, maybe the dude wasn't on staff when the whole thing happened. Besides, ExxonMobil didn't force the alcohol down that dopey skipper's throat.

In regards to the Scotland event, poor opinions/statements of unions could also be levied (I would probably lead the charge). But that isn't the point or intent of the article.

EM and unions along with their past evils aside, all of us need to keep our preparations on schedule to get us through at least 3-4 weeks of self-sufficiency.


Edited by MoBOB (05/03/08 12:46 AM)
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#131921 - 05/03/08 01:37 AM Re: Pandemic implications by academics and busines [Re: MoBOB]
Art_in_FL Offline
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Registered: 09/01/07
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I wouldn't worry too much about trucking, trains, air traffic, water, power, hospitals and food delivery. As long as the powers-that-be temporarily nationalize and take control of the basics soon enough they can be maintained by skeleton emergency crews for extended periods of time. It was done quite well and efficiently during WW2.

That isn't to say it would be smooth. Elective medical treatments would be gone for the duration. Services and resources probably rationed. Rolling blackouts and shortages possible.

A rough ride for people who are used to having everything. But, for the most part, everyone would make it. Nobody gets fat but nobody starves. It isn't the capitalist way but tough. It is how we got through WW2. It is a proven strategy for hard times.




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#131923 - 05/03/08 02:08 AM Re: Pandemic implications by academics and busines [Re: Art_in_FL]
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I've heard that around here the pandemic contingency assumes that within a short period of time, there will be a 60% absentee rate or more in most occupations.

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#131931 - 05/03/08 04:12 AM Re: Pandemic implications by academics and businesses [Re: OIMO]
Susan Offline
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"However to date H5N1 has a mortality rate of 63 per cent in humans."

I doubt that that info (opinion) is accurate. I suspect they are counting only the known victims, and ignoring the rest. It has been estimated that many people who came into contact with the infected animals in high-density conditions actually came down with the disease, but weren't sick enough to go to the hospital.

But if they're just trying to cause a panic or something, that 63% will probably do for now.

Sue

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#131934 - 05/03/08 06:08 AM Re: Pandemic implications by academics and businesses [Re: Susan]
OIMO Offline
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Art> You are right about drafting in the military to run vital services and the WHO global preparedness plan suggests the same thing here: http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza/en/ However I am just not sure how easy it will be with some of the complex control systems now in place where extensive training and knowledge are necessary to operate them.

Sue> I am guessing they are using WHO figures here:
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza/country/cases_table_2008_04_30/en/index.html

That, as you suggested, only considers confirmed cases. However I guess that is all they can work with. Hopefully you are right.

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#131935 - 05/03/08 06:42 AM Re: Pandemic implications by academics and busines [Re: OIMO]
OIMO Offline
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Registered: 08/03/07
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Loc: UK
So getting this back on a more equipped.org footing here is my thinking; given the above issues in a pandemic scenario this is what I need to address:

- Food and Consumables for 10 weeks
- Potable Water for 10 weeks
- Rainwater recovery for hygiene inc. toilet flushing (assuming sewerage is still operational - the town's system appears gravity based)
- Ability to boil water even if power and natural gas are off (a Kelly Kettle)
- N95 face masks (as per WHO recommendations for health workers; on the "good enough for them, good enough for me" basis)
- Heat source, most likely a log burner

I suspect as I am classed as non-critical staff and the site I work on is a control site for some national infrastructure they won't want to see me anyway. So would aim for self imposed isolation.

What am I missing, apart from a stack of good books to read?


Edited by OIMO (05/03/08 06:43 AM)
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#131941 - 05/03/08 12:20 PM Re: Pandemic implications by academics and busines [Re: OIMO]
TS_Shawn Offline
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Registered: 03/11/08
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Loc: Washington, D.C.
There are a lot of reasons to encourage and facilitate telecommuting. Preparedness should be #1 and reason enough.

A concerted effort among private and public sector employers to have as many workers as possible telecommute one day a week would have many benefits: 1) save fuel; 2) alleviate traffic congestion, and; 3) prepare those entities for full-time telecommuting in an emergency such as a pandemic.

The first step to contain a pandemic should be closing schools. That's a lot of working parents -- many of them single -- suddenly needing to stay home to care for them.

Everyone involved in pandemic planning should read Stephen King's "The Stand." That military-devised superflu is the ultimate worst-case scenario -- far, far beyond normal worst-case pandemic models -- but the rapid societal breakdown is instructive. The creepiness of it is highly motivating.

In fact, I've given it to a couple.

And this reminds me that more N95 masks would be a good plan for my home, office and car.


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