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#130265 - 04/16/08 10:47 AM SIGG canteen
AROTC Offline
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Does anyone have the 1940 replica SIGG Canteen? This one I'm curious if the cup that comes with it will stand up to being heated over a stove.
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#130266 - 04/16/08 10:53 AM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: AROTC]
wildman800 Offline
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"Cheaper Than Dirt" has the military surplus SIGG's for sale.
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#130267 - 04/16/08 11:22 AM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: wildman800]
Kris Offline
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I have that canteen, but never tried tried to use the cup over a stove/fire just yet - but I don't see an issue. Its my edc to work, and a perfect size to be sitting on my desk. As a side note: it does look a bit like a flask, and can't tell you how many times people ask what spirits I have in it!

I even emailed customer support to find out what kind of metal the cup is, and if they recommend such a task... They kept mentioning the steel in the canteen (stainless steel and now aluminum oval bottles). I couldn't get an answer to my question, so I gave up.

Sorry, No help... But it is a cool product.
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#130298 - 04/16/08 02:25 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: AROTC]
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i just had a look at mine.the cup is in two parts with the
base "glued" in with some sort of tan colored, epoxy??..i have
had many hot drinks out of that cup but never put it over
a campstove flame--however..the surplus canteen --the one with
the cork stopper--has a cup stamped from one piece of aluminum
and i have boiled water over a wood fire with no problem..i did
that when i was looking for a container that i could cook in
for my Ditch Vest PFD--

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#130315 - 04/16/08 05:08 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: CANOEDOGS]
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Yeah, looking at it on closer inspection, my cup is in two parts as well. Though it looks like it was 'welded' (for lack of a better explanation) on then grinded clean - you can see the grinder marks as they were done evenly. But it does have a faint 'tan' colour for the seam.
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#130321 - 04/16/08 06:17 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: AROTC]
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Hi AROTC,

The metal cup is oval shaped and is 6 cm (minor axis) and 10 cm (major axis) and will hold about 400ml of water to boil safely . The cup is formed from 2 pieces of stainless steel. The oval base of the cup has be brazed to the wall of the cup with what looks like nickel bronze (white yellow metal). So it should be able to boil water without any problems. The main problem is stable the cup will sit on your stove due to the 6cm by 10cm oval dimensions. This will depend on your make and model of stove. Also because of the oval shape, boiling water isn't going to be very efficient either. As the cup is a single walled metal cup I would'nt recommend it for drinking hot drinks from directly.

The Sigg Bottle I have is also manufactured from Stainless Steel and powder coated on the outside. If your are going to purchase the Sigg water bottle and cup set then I would also recommend purchasing the neoprene cover as well. The neoprene cover helps keep liquids cooler for longer and helps stops the bottle from getting dented.

The Sigg Bottle is very stylish and is great for carrying a good malt whisky in the wilderness being both lighter and more durable than the glass bottle alternative. Pouring a malt from a plastic platypus bag just doesn't have the same effect. wink






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#130329 - 04/16/08 07:32 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
Schwert Offline
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The new version Sigg oval with cup is quite nice. Both are stainless, yet I see that an aluminum oval bottle is now available.

I can easily drink hot liquids from the stainless cup....not an issue at all. I have not cooked in it yet.

The old surplus 1940 version is aluminum including the cup. I have a more recent version with a plastic bottle and aluminum cup....hot as hades to drink from.



Sigg has an awfully nice new .4L Vintage Flask....just perfect for a single malt. I saw this posted on another forum and had one in minutes....I really like this stainless flask.


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#130363 - 04/17/08 02:16 AM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
jaywalke Offline
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Originally Posted By: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor
Pouring a malt from a plastic platypus bag just doesn't have the same effect. wink



It's all about the attitude, AFLM. If James Bond can look cool in a turtleneck, there's hope for me and my plastic bag full of bourbon.

I hope.


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#130364 - 04/17/08 02:19 AM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: jaywalke]
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Hey, a toddy in a Camelbak bladder may not look cool, but you get the same kick...
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#130394 - 04/17/08 01:53 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: OldBaldGuy]
justmeagain Offline
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Sigg has a great design team that creates beautiful and functional products. I've yet to be disappointed with anything by Sigg, I have quite a few bottles as well as some boxes and a cutlery set. I do not have the silver flask however; soon.

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#130442 - 04/17/08 10:50 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: justmeagain]
CANOEDOGS Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
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well---we still don't know if we can put it over a camp stove
and cook or boil water without the seam opening up--
anyone want to try??--

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#130444 - 04/17/08 11:26 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: CANOEDOGS]
Kris Offline
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I'll be bbq'ing ribs this weekend (4+ hr smoke), so i'll try it then (not really allowed campfires on the island).

Unless someone else who has the cup and a camp stove/open fire, and can use them????

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#130502 - 04/18/08 05:56 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: CANOEDOGS]
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I boiled about 1/2 a cup full in a couple of minutes and the cup survived without any seemless adverse affects. You do have to careful though with regards to the stability of the Sigg cup on the stove. Also with the handles being quite small are thus nearer the heat of the stove flame so some care should be used lifting the mug. Overall the mug is useable but not ideal for boiling water. Also the mug seems to creak (sound) when the stove flame was turned down. I'm not to sure whether this was due to the stove or the mug e.g. the dissimilar stainless steel and nickel bronze brazing material used to weld the cup together.


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#130503 - 04/18/08 06:14 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
Kris Offline
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Thanks for the review Am_Fear_Liath_Mor!
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#130556 - 04/19/08 03:00 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
CANOEDOGS Offline
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Fear--well that looked like a very positive test--if the
cup would stand up to the heat from a Gaz stove it should
work with just about anything..i would not want to do this
other than a back up when no other pot would be avalable.
my hiking stove has a pot as a cover and i use the water
out of the Sigg to make tea or coffee and drink it out of the
cup..you took a chance with a pricy bit of gear for that test.--all us Sigg canteen onwers thank you--

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#130559 - 04/19/08 03:41 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: CANOEDOGS]
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Well, said. Thank you for your test Fear. I like the idea of being able to use the Sigg cup as a pot in a pinch. Good to know its not going to fail catastrophically.
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#200828 - 04/23/10 05:12 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: justmeagain]
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I've been looking for a new edc water bottle and came across this sigg flask and was wondering if they where lined with some thing

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#200829 - 04/23/10 05:22 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: Cauldronborn]
rebwa Offline
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I was thinking of getting one of the sigg flasks last fall and was told by the local sig dealer that they couldn't get them anymore. Either the flasks or the oval bottles that they fit in. I went with the ti snow peak and very happy with it.

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#200831 - 04/23/10 05:35 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: Cauldronborn]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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I want one of these, or even a couple of these.

http://www.vargooutdoors.com/store/p1593/Titanium-Water-Bottle/product_info.html

but can't find a retailer in the UK or anyone in the US who will send it to the UK. frown


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#200844 - 04/23/10 06:55 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
Cauldronborn Offline
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Am Fear Liath Mor I see that you have one of the flasks, can you please tell me if there is a liner of any type on the inside?

cauldronborn

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#200845 - 04/23/10 07:14 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: Cauldronborn]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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The Sigg Oval 0.6 Litre bottle that comes with the Canteen is stainless steel so is unlined. The outer is powdered coated so the neoprene cover is recommended as well.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sigg-Bottle-Insulation-Bottles-Neoprene/dp/B000OT23VQ/ref=pd_sim_sg_2

I believe that Sigg also do an identical Oval bottle in Aluminium so would be lined.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001NPEMSM/ref=twister_dp_update?ie=UTF8&childASIN=B001NPCWG6

The combo Bottle+Mug item should always be stainless steel construction, but I would also check out the Tatonka Bottles as well. They are very lightweight for Stainless steel and fit perfectly into a Sigg Neoprene cover.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tatonka-Stainles...3163&sr=1-1

I also use a Smartube with the Tatonka Bottle in day pack side pockets as shown below

http://www.amfearliathmor.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/CIMG0062eh.jpg





Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (04/23/10 07:17 PM)

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#200852 - 04/23/10 08:51 PM Re: SIGG canteen [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
Cauldronborn Offline
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Many thanks, some times I find that I come across something on the net and no matter how many searches I do I can't find answer's to the simple questions (the one that make you fell silly for asking). As for those other bottles I've found that the cylindrical shaped ones are a PITA to use in my small rucksack (I pack light and they don't stay where i want them)

PS: Sorry to keep bugging you like this but could you tell me the weight of the flask with and with out the cup please. Again, many thanks


Edited by Cauldronborn (04/23/10 09:43 PM)

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