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#113351 - 11/23/07 09:18 PM Re: Testing winter survival gear. By surviving winter! [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
Hacksaw
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Mountain Equipment Coop rates the Ridge Rest at 2.6. But this is still the highest rated closed cell pad they sell...I just hate how bulky the closed cell pads are.

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#113352 - 11/23/07 09:33 PM Re: Testing winter survival gear. By surviving winter! [Re: raydarkhorse]
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Originally Posted By: raydarkhorse
In this scenario are you carrying your entire pack or just the survival gear? I know that I don't carry a full pack for day trip fishing but I do carry my small day bag. I would also be dressed in layers for he weather with possibly another light jacket for later in the evening
DAY BAG CONTENTS
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1 baklava
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I normally have a heat sheet in the bag too, but when I started to write this I opened it up to make sure I was writing a correct list and found it missing.
I would limit my test to what I would normally carry, since that is all you will realistically have.

Cool, you bring dessert with you! smile I just couldn't resist! LOL
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#113353 - 11/23/07 09:36 PM Re: Testing winter survival gear. By surviving winter! [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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I agree with the tent and candle lanter, or even 2. Just remember to vent the tent.
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#113354 - 11/23/07 09:44 PM Re: Testing winter survival gear. By surviving winter! [Re: ]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Hi Hacksaw

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Mountain Equipment Coop rates the Ridge Rest at 2.6. But this is still the highest rated closed cell pad they sell...I just hate how bulky the closed cell pads are.


The RidgeRest is rated at 2.6 http://www.thermarest.com/product_detail.aspx?pID=49&cID=2
The RidgeRest Deluxe is rated at 3.1 http://www.thermarest.com/product_detail.aspx?pID=55&cID=3

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#113355 - 11/23/07 09:46 PM Re: Testing winter survival gear. By surviving winter! [Re: raydarkhorse]
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A few large chemical heat packs (body size), as well as hand and foot warmer packs may make life a little easier, for the addition little weight or space.
HEAT PACKS
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#113356 - 11/23/07 09:53 PM Re: Testing winter survival gear. By surviving winter! [Re: Stu]
Hacksaw
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Originally Posted By: SBRaider
A few large chemical heat packs (body size), ans well as hand and foot warmer packs may make life a little easier, for the addition little weight or space.
HEAT PACKS


I ALWAYS carry chemical warmers...usually end up giving them away to the unprepared.

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#113357 - 11/23/07 10:11 PM Re: Testing winter survival gear. By surviving winter! [Re: ]
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Last January, when I went winter camping the Adirondack Mountains, I tossed 2 body warmer packs inside a homemade cloth case into the foot of my sleeping bag about 45 minutes before I got in the bag. The bag was very nice and warm, almost too warm.
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#113358 - 11/23/07 11:05 PM Re: Testing winter survival gear. By surviving winter! [Re: Stu]
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the trick is keeping em sealed so the honey dosent get all over the place.
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#113359 - 11/23/07 11:22 PM Re: Testing winter survival gear. By surviving winter! [Re: raydarkhorse]
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Originally Posted By: raydarkhorse
the trick is keeping em sealed so the honey dosent get all over the place.

Good idea. Honey in the wrong places make a real mess! grin
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#113362 - 11/24/07 12:12 AM Re: Testing winter survival gear. By surviving winter! [Re: ]
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Registered: 07/08/07
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Hi Hacksaw,

Your experiment sounds like a good test and a real adventure, Good Luck. How far away from shore do you usually ice fish? If I could I would sure try to get to shore and utilize forest cover for my camp.

I was thinking about driving tent pegs into ice and had a couple ideas.

When ice fishing I always pack slush from cutting the hole around my tip-up rig to make them stand up. Slush freezes very solid in a short time and could be used to anchour a tent peg easily.

I have also had my ice fishing hut blown across the ice and damaged. To prevent this drill/chop a hole all the way through the ice, take a one foot piece of heavy stick (or anything sturdy) and tie a rope in the middle, put the stick down the hole, turn it sideways and pull it up against the bottom of the ice with the rope through the hole to the surface; instant strong tie point. I have done this with chain also when there was a risk of having my hut stolen. Whatever you freeze in this way you will probally not recover the lower portion.

I have used ice screws in the past to salvage snowmobiles that have got through the ice, they are very strong and remove a core from the ice. The are quite light weight but not cheap at $35.00 each. Here is a link to MEC http://mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302691749&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442242435&bmUID=1195866314130

Hope this helps,

Mike

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