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#104859 - 09/06/07 07:34 PM Re: popcorn butter smell cause lung illness ! [Re: Russ]
MichaelJ07 Offline
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Registered: 12/19/06
Posts: 101
Loc: Michigan, USA
Originally Posted By: RAS
you'll already have had a minor heart attack


Been there, done that. Only not so minor. Attitude is everything. Unnerving when my doctors don't know why I'm not dead yet. If we reacted to every issued medical report that came across our desks, we wouldn't be able to eat anything or even go outside (or probably not stay inside either!)

Now, where did she put the popcorn pan?
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#104884 - 09/06/07 10:28 PM Re: popcorn butter smell cause lung illness ! [Re: ScouterMan]
picard120 Offline
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Registered: 07/10/05
Posts: 763
this chemical pose a serious health hazard. I strongly advise everyone to avoid eating microwave popcorn period. the butter smell come from the chemical instead of real butter. This chemical is saturated as fine mist that easily enter the lung membrane.


In addition the popcorn bag use a chemical that is carcinogen. It is proven that this chemical cause cancer. A canadian politician volunteer to undergo testing for cancer causing carcinogen. One of the chemical in his body come from microwave popcorn. He quit eating microwave popcorn and the chemical level in his blood dropped dramatically. I am not kidding people.

Listen to the Captain words.

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#104896 - 09/07/07 01:30 AM Re: popcorn butter smell cause lung illness ! [Re: picard120]
jshannon Offline
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Registered: 02/02/03
Posts: 647
Loc: North Texas
This story is 99% media hype.

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#104901 - 09/07/07 02:08 AM Re: popcorn butter smell cause lung illness ! [Re: picard120]
xbanker Offline
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Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 484
Loc: Anthem, AZ USA
Quote:
...so he would open and inhale from freshly popped bags...two or three bags every day for 10 years...

There was no mention of the first or second degree burns he suffered from the escaping steam as he performed this daily ritual.
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#104906 - 09/07/07 03:04 AM Re: popcorn butter smell cause lung illness ! [Re: ]
picard120 Offline
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Registered: 07/10/05
Posts: 763
Originally Posted By: IzzyJG99
I get the feeling just like any other would-be carcinogen...you have to inhale or be exposed to a ton of it for a long time all the time to get any bad affects.


this carinogen has immediate effect and can be detected in X-ray scan.

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#104907 - 09/07/07 03:06 AM Re: popcorn butter smell cause lung illness ! [Re: jshannon]
picard120 Offline
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Registered: 07/10/05
Posts: 763
Originally Posted By: jshannon
This story is 99% media hype.


no. this isn't media hype. The Canadian gov't is drafting law that ban chemicals such as this one.

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#104910 - 09/07/07 04:19 AM Re: popcorn butter smell cause lung illness ! [Re: Blast]
ironraven Offline
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Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
Yes, yes you did. smile
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#104914 - 09/07/07 04:39 AM Re: popcorn butter smell cause lung illness ! [Re: ironraven]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
*Don't stick your head in a blast furnace.
*Don't stick your head in a super-heated steam vent.
*Don't stick your head into a volcano.
*Don't stick your head into a bucket of water and breathe deeply 12 times.
*Don't superglue your lips and your nostrils together at the same time.
*Don't put a plastic bag over your head and tie it snugly around your neck.
*Don't deeply inhale large amounts of propane, natural gas, lighter fluid, freon or several hundred (or thousand) other materials.

Some people aren't ignorant or brain-damaged, they're just plain stupid. Mankind has been killing itself in creative ways since the cave days. This dork has just added one more. So what?

Sue

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#104915 - 09/07/07 04:48 AM Re: popcorn butter smell cause lung illness ! [Re: picard120]
ironraven Offline
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Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
picard, your hypochondria can be amusing at times, but I must ask a question in all, 100%, no-BS serious:

What do you eat at this point?

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#104930 - 09/07/07 01:21 PM Re: popcorn butter smell cause lung illness ! [Re: picard120]
paramedicpete Offline
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Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 1920
Loc: Frederick, Maryland
Just because some chemical has been shown to have carcinogenic effects in the laboratory, should not necessarily be cause for alarm. Concern maybe, alarm no.

Many naturally occurring chemicals also shown carcinogenic and/or toxic effects in laboratory bioassays. The design of these bioassays are generally skewed towards being overly sensitive. Non-animal studies, which use either, cell cultures or bacteria have been shown to demonstrate alterations to even chemicals that have been in use for many years without any indication they cause any health issues in the real world. Even animal studies do not always correlate to the general use of the product.

Complex interactions between man-made and naturally occurring chemicals, biotransformation, factors such as genetic predisposition, age, sex, ethnicity, dose exposure, route of exposure, length of exposure and a whole host of other factors will influence the effects any chemical will have on a particular individual.

Organic in and of itself is no assurance that the food product is safe. One example of this is peanut butter. Alphatoxins are potent carcinogens, which can be the byproduct of fugal metabolism. Most, if not all of the larger peanut butter producers have machines that screen every single peanut for the presence of fungal contamination and reject those peanuts, which are infected with fungi. Many of the smaller producers, use organically grown peanuts, which due to not using fungicides are more prone to fungal contamination. This combined with fact that these producers could not afford the equipment to screen for fungal contamination resulted in many of the organically produced peanut butters to contain high levels of alphatoxins. I believe this has now been addressed and corrected, but for many years it went undetected.

There have been many hyped media scares over the years, many prove to have no foundation in fact, but once it becomes part of folk lore/urban legends it is hard to shake off the suspicion. The successful key is to most things in life is moderation, not extremism.

Just my 2 cents-
Pete

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