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#297796 - 12/18/20 09:55 PM 18650 battery recommendations ?
Cauldronborn2 Offline
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Hello everyone, I hope your all keeping safe and well.

I've recently bought a headlamp/headlight for outdoor chores ect, that I though would becoming with the two 18650 batteries it needs but didn't(guess who was the blind bat that didn't read the fine print?).

I've been looking for some from a reputable brand/company and frankly I feel like I'm in over my head, could anyone give me some pointers on what I should be looking for or be taking into consideration?

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#297797 - 12/18/20 10:13 PM Re: 18650 battery recommendations ? [Re: Cauldronborn2]
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1. Buy protected cells - more expensive but worth it - much safer

2. Buy high capacity - at least 3000 mAh, more expensive but, again, worth it for significantly longer run time. 3500 mAh is even better.

3. Buy name brand - Sanyo, Fenix, Panasonic. I have heard that any battery with "ultra" in the name should be avoided.

There is a lot of useful info in candlepower forums - probably others as well.

Some headlamp concerns also sell their own brand batteries. I have high capacity Zebralight and Fenix batts and they are doing well.

Expect to pay about 20 bucks per batt - money well spent.
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#297798 - 12/18/20 10:48 PM Re: 18650 battery recommendations ? [Re: Cauldronborn2]
Cauldronborn2 Offline
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Wow hikermor, I wasn't expecting a reply that fast.

Protected batteries are definitely something I want to have in a headlamp, and I'll check out the brands you mentioned.

Many thanks.

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#297799 - 12/19/20 01:48 AM Re: 18650 battery recommendations ? [Re: Cauldronborn2]
haertig Offline
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NiteCore makes good ones (actually they put their name on other manufacturer's batteries probably). They come in different capacities. I have some of the 3400mAh ones, I think they even have higher capacity than that these days.

A HEADLAMP that takes two 18650's? That's either going to be one bright son-of-a-gun, or it's going to last for 27 years continuous use per charge.

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#297800 - 12/19/20 09:46 AM Re: 18650 battery recommendations ? [Re: Cauldronborn2]
Herman30 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Cauldronborn2
a headlamp/headlight...with the two 18650 batteries

Please tell what lamp it is, if you will.

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#297801 - 12/19/20 01:05 PM Re: 18650 battery recommendations ? [Re: Cauldronborn2]
Ren Offline
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There are only a handful of big name makers.

LG
Panasonic/Sanyo
Sony
Samsung

Almost everyone else is just rebranding cells from those companies.

For a battery, as previously said, a high capacity (above 3000mAh and absolute maximum capacity is currently around 3500mAh, any higher and they are lying) from one of the above.

Eg.

Samsung 35E in the UK: https://www.fogstar.co.uk/products/samsung-35e-18650-battery £5.45

Other options are the LG MJ1.


In the US, shouldn't be paying more than $10 (usually $7) for an 18650 from one of the above.

https://www.illumn.com/
https://www.18650batterystore.com/

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#297802 - 12/19/20 01:16 PM Re: 18650 battery recommendations ? [Re: Cauldronborn2]
Cauldronborn2 Offline
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haertig, Herman30.

The headlamp in question is a cheap Chinese one I got on ebay that kinds looks like a the extra spot lights on a 4x4. Its not something I would want to rely on during a hike but seems good enough for outdoor chores and other at home uses I have in mind for it.

Here's a link to the one I bought link obviously I haven't tried it yet with batteries but I have found that it will run from the build in USB charging port and haertig's right it's a bright son-of-a-gun. It's probably overkill for what I need to be honest but I liked the design, sometimes I'm just attracted to non standard designs like this and as it seemed like it could do the job I though "why not?".

Also it was cheap enough that I'm thinking out using it as a "project" to try some ideas out.

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#297804 - 12/19/20 03:21 PM Re: 18650 battery recommendations ? [Re: Cauldronborn2]
Herman30 Offline
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Just do not buy any cheap 18650 batteries. They can be like a bomb if they fail. Those batteries are not to be toyed with.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=18650+battery+accidents


Edited by Herman30 (12/19/20 03:25 PM)

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#297805 - 12/19/20 03:54 PM Re: 18650 battery recommendations ? [Re: Cauldronborn2]
haertig Offline
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The link you provided said "6000 lumens" !!!!!!!

That will be quite bright indeed, as it's over double what an HID car headlight puts out.

Your friends at the campsite are going to hate you...

https://scanneranswers.com/how-many-lumens-is-a-car-headlight/

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#297806 - 12/19/20 04:23 PM Re: 18650 battery recommendations ? [Re: haertig]
Tjin Offline
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Originally Posted By: haertig
The link you provided said "6000 lumens" !!!!!!!



Well, there are things like ANSI lumens and eBay lumens. The latter tends to be a bit off.
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