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#266488 - 01/10/14 02:08 AM Fire Safety - 9-Volt Batteries
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Subject: Important fire safety info for everyone

Fire Safety for 9 volt batteries

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSJH21WmALc
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#266494 - 01/10/14 03:43 PM Re: Fire Safety - 9-Volt Batteries [Re: brandtb]
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Wow.. I knew they got hot if the end touched, but never realized they could burst into flames.

I probably have several of these loose in a dresser drawer at home right now that are not taped... I'll be fixing that when I get home tonight!

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#266495 - 01/10/14 04:14 PM Re: Fire Safety - 9-Volt Batteries [Re: RNewcomb]
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Wow, indeed. Thanks for posting. Very pertinent....
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#266497 - 01/10/14 04:35 PM Re: Fire Safety - 9-Volt Batteries [Re: RNewcomb]
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Originally Posted By: RNewcomb
Wow.. I knew they got hot if the end touched, but never realized they could burst into flames.

I probably have several of these loose in a dresser drawer at home right now that are not taped... I'll be fixing that when I get home tonight!


I do not think that any regular types of disposable 9 volt battery can burst into flame, the electrolyte consists largely of water in which a non flammable alkaline material is dissolved. The other materials are not normally regarded a flammable.

I have NEVER heard from a reputable source of a standard disposable battery catching fire.

Lithium 9 volt batteries exist and these might be a risk under extreme conditions, but alkaline or Zinc carbon cells ? I very much doubt it.

A spark from shorting out a 9 volt battery could certainly start a fire in the presence of flammables such as gasoline, propane, or other readily ignited materials, but that is not the same. Any spark could be dangerous under such conditions.

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#266498 - 01/10/14 04:38 PM Re: Fire Safety - 9-Volt Batteries [Re: brandtb]
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Its one of those rare but real risks I guess. At work they started out recycling batteries and early on they required 'tape both ends of each battery', 9 volt or other. I dutifully taped both ends of ~30 AAs and it was a pain. They since have revised down to taping *no* batteries and are none the worse off for it. Probably the Risks folks haven't heard about this one - but with no recorded fires in the recycle bins who would raise the issue...

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#266499 - 01/10/14 05:01 PM Re: Fire Safety - 9-Volt Batteries [Re: brandtb]
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I can see how one or two 9 volt batteries, in a full on short could create enough heat to ignite some sort of fuel. What I don't understand about the video, is how that small ignition could have propagated into a whole house fire. I can only assume that the batteries in question were in very close proximity to a fair amount of fuel, perhaps paper etc. IMO, there was a second mistake: throwing out the batteries into s source of fuel. In our community, we have a separate recycling bin for paper, cardboard etc. A great fuel source if you put the batteries into it together in a paper bag. Note that the recycling bin has an attached cover; closing it might be a useful safety precaution also.
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#266503 - 01/10/14 07:38 PM Re: Fire Safety - 9-Volt Batteries [Re: brandtb]
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Who knows if the battery burst into flames? It could have have been whatever shorted the leads that burst into flames. Attach a wire across the leads and notice how quickly that wire gets HOT. (Actually, don't do this.) Either way, covering the leads with electrical tape is a good, simple, inexpensive precaution.
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#266505 - 01/10/14 08:35 PM Re: Fire Safety - 9-Volt Batteries [Re: brandtb]
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Loc: Southern California
I did manage to short a 9V battery a couple of years ago when I inadvertently shorted it across a 9.6V NiCad AA battery pack. It got too hot to hold for more then a few senconds, and then it vented. I heard a faint pop-hiss when it did this.

I find it hard to believe, given the prevalence of 9V alkaline batteries, that some safety fetures was not built into the battery to prevent it from catching on fire.
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#266509 - 01/11/14 02:46 AM Re: Fire Safety - 9-Volt Batteries [Re: brandtb]
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A 9V battery is just six quad-A (AAAA) 1.5V batteries pressed together in a case. As others have noted, they wouldn't burn on their own (unlike lithium-ion rechargeables); but if shorted out by aluminum foil, I suppose they could be enough current to create a brief burst of heat and ignite tinder. The conditions for causing a fire would have to be unbelievably perfect -- I would rate it as a freak occurrence. There are things in the average house and attached garage that are more dangerous by orders of magnitude.

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#266510 - 01/11/14 03:53 AM Re: Fire Safety - 9-Volt Batteries [Re: dougwalkabout]
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I don't know if it would reach ignition temperature but a standard 9V will get hot enough that if dropped in a pocket with change, you will be removing it quickly if it shorts. BTDT to myself.

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