#237918 - 12/24/11 02:57 AM
Two ATVers found dead in Mojave
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What a shame. ATVing in the middle of the night in the high desert, in freezing temperatures? FYI, the desert is deadly in the winter too. From CNN
The two young men left a Randsburg, California, hotel about 2:30 a.m. Sunday, telling their girlfriends where they were headed and saying they'd be back within a few hours.
The two planned to travel by ATV about 15 miles to the Cuddeback Dry Lake Bed in San Bernardino County, an expansive and popular "off-roading" area.
It was a "dark, moonless night," said Carbonaro's father, Robert Carbonaro, who worried as the search was under way that the two "may have gotten disoriented."
Carbonaro said he was worried about abandoned gold mine shafts in the area. But Kern County authorities said the bodies were found in a ravine area with rugged, steep terrain.
Edited by LED (12/24/11 02:59 AM)
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#237919 - 12/24/11 03:14 AM
Re: Two ATVers found dead in Mojave
[Re: LED]
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I read this story earlier on another news website which has more details here. Sad for the families to have to go through through this right before Christmas and starkly shows the danger of riding around in rugged desert terrain during the middle of the night.
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#237921 - 12/24/11 03:26 AM
Re: Two ATVers found dead in Mojave
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Registered: 11/25/08
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Loc: Washington, DC
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That is so sad. Christmas will be solemn for their families for years to come.
RIP
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#237922 - 12/24/11 03:27 AM
Re: Two ATVers found dead in Mojave
[Re: LED]
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Loc: Northern IL
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When I hear a story about someone doing something this stupid I usually assume alcohol was somehow involved.
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#237924 - 12/24/11 05:31 AM
Re: Two ATVers found dead in Mojave
[Re: LED]
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I am willing to state that you may well be right, but why make the assumption?
One of the more discouraging things about SAR work is the high percentage of serious incidents in which alcohol is involved (and not as stove fuel). It actually made a virtual teetotaler out of me.
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#237925 - 12/24/11 05:34 AM
Re: Two ATVers found dead in Mojave
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Registered: 02/11/10
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Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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Just really not enough info re: cause of demise.Did they crash,Exposure,Dehydrate,what?
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#237932 - 12/24/11 03:17 PM
Re: Two ATVers found dead in Mojave
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Just really not enough info re: cause of demise.Did they crash,Exposure,Dehydrate,what? they drove off a 500' cliff. bodies found 400' down. vehicle another 100' further down. more details here they were found in the opposite direction from where they told people they were going.
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#237947 - 12/24/11 07:45 PM
Re: Two ATVers found dead in Mojave
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Registered: 03/31/06
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Loc: United Kingdom.
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So they have basically Darwined themselves.
One has to wonder if they believed their position to be somewhere else.
Only merciful thing about this is that it would have been extremely quick.
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#237956 - 12/24/11 11:19 PM
Re: Two ATVers found dead in Mojave
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Registered: 02/27/08
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After 30' you're a goner. Is this a fact? A 30' fall usually kills? That's around 3 stories, I guess. It seems that people have survived that jumping out the window in fires.
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