The subject of nuclear survival is appropriate for urban survival considerations. What is not appropriate, within the purpose of EQUIPPED, are political discussions regarding nuclear power or weaponry. Are these vital and topical subjects? Yes, but the appropriate website is www.equipped to debate.dumb. We can always exchange private messages or emails. Also,none of us can plead purity regarding hurtfull or hasty remarks. If any poster makes a offensive remark, please email or PM me or Doug. My email ( that works always) is XXXXXXXXXXXX ( I'm told Im strange off horses too ;O) Flame wars can only ignite with sufficient tinder, hot air and friction.