So I wonder what would be a more effective method a stun gun or the extractor? Both are not really proven and shocking myself is a little hard for me, I had tried a 50K stun gun in the past before and it felt like getting burned when they first came out but I could never get my self to do it again. In the field you would probably want a magneto from an aircraft or a hand cranked one to get rid of battery problems out in the field. I have heard of the shock in the past but I haven't heard any true positive feedback. I know the sawyer has worked for insects unless it gives me a false since of security. I was bitten in the back of the neck awhile back by a wasp and it felt like being hit by a bat, I used the extractor within 2 min and the pain went away immediately and had no issues after that.

Many good points are brought up which has a lot of merit and thanks also pete for the PDF file.