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#99553 - 07/10/07 07:22 PM Equipped... to fly a lawn chair at 13,000 feet
Susan Offline
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Kent Couch carried a GPS, a two-way radio, a digital camcorder, a cell phone, instruments to measure altitude and speed, drinks, snacks, a parachute and four plastic bags holding five gallons of water each. He also had a three-car ground team consisting of wife, friends and his dog.

Oregon man takes lawn chair up to 13,000 feet, travels 193 miles
http://www.theolympian.com/northwest/story/157932.html

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#99556 - 07/10/07 07:32 PM Re: Equipped... to fly a lawn chair at 13,000 feet [Re: Susan]
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Oh wow! It's wonderful to hear of a man living his dream.

-Blast, raising a toast to Kent Couch
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#99560 - 07/10/07 07:41 PM Re: Equipped... to fly a lawn chair at 13,000 feet [Re: Susan]
el_diabl0 Offline
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I do that every weekend after I've had a few beers!
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#99617 - 07/11/07 02:29 PM Re: Equipped... to fly a lawn chair at 13,000 feet [Re: Susan]
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"...Even at two miles high...He heard gunshots, which worried him..."

We worried about a bullet coming UP 10,000 feet? I'd like to see that gun...
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#99647 - 07/11/07 08:07 PM Re: Equipped... to fly a lawn chair at 13,000 feet [Re: OldBaldGuy]
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Originally Posted By: OldBaldGuy
"...Even at two miles high...He heard gunshots, which worried him..."

We worried about a bullet coming UP 10,000 feet? I'd like to see that gun...

Sure thing:


That's the gun I'd be worried about if I were at 13,000 ft. (Yes, yes... I know that the Warthog isn't an air-to-air platform. But lawnchairs aren't supposed to be at 13,000 ft. either.)
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#99648 - 07/11/07 08:13 PM Re: Equipped... to fly a lawn chair at 13,000 feet [Re: NightHiker]
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Why don't these guys get serious with a real hot air balloon. No telling where that lawn chair ended up.
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#99655 - 07/11/07 10:49 PM Re: Equipped... to fly a lawn chair at 13,000 feet [Re: Susan]
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Loc: Pttsbg SWestern Pa USA N-Amer....
Congrats on his Good Flight!

But I know that carrying that much water, -sure added to the weight! A cubic foot of water weighs either 62.something (The dots after this and the following numbers means a Decimal Point, mentioned here for Clearer Reading and Understanding) pounds, -or 64.something pounds, -I'm foggy as to the exact figure. I also recall there being 8.something gallons in such a cubic foot.

You mention 5 gallons multiplied by 4. So this is considerably more than half, -of my above mentioned Water Weight figures!

I do know that Oregon east of the Cascades, -certainly does have its Arid/Dry areas. a 193 mile long Flite quite likely would have gone out of Oregon's Wetlands. And thus a need for water.

Still thats Considerable Weight! But still also, -he considerably made it!

Could well have gone even further, -with less water. But its Understandable enuff, -why he wouldn't want to risk such, -over the Western Drylands.

I guess one can always attach an extra Balloon, -and that is perhaps what he did.

(I also refer you and others, -to the Thread "Up With the Airliners", -most likely here in the Campfire. About a similar and Famous 1982(?) Successful Flite!).
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#99702 - 07/12/07 02:40 PM Re: Equipped... to fly a lawn chair at 13,000 feet [Re: ScottRezaLogan]
Westwindmike Offline
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Registered: 01/12/07
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Loc: Middle Tennessee
Wait till the FAA gets a hold of this guy. He admits to flying through a cloud, "He passed through clouds. He said they were fluffy." They will probably say he flew an unregistered, experimental aircraft into IFR conditions without being on an IFR flight plan.
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#99707 - 07/12/07 03:13 PM Re: Equipped... to fly a lawn chair at 13,000 feet [Re: Westwindmike]
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I don't think that going thru one little cloud meets the requirements of IFR, but it would be a real bummer to meet a 747 in the middle of that cloud. I do suspect that the FAA is going to want to have a talk with him tho...
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#99714 - 07/12/07 04:22 PM Re: Equipped... to fly a lawn chair at 13,000 feet [Re: OldBaldGuy]
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Loc: Middle Tennessee
Originally Posted By: OldBaldGuy
I don't think that going thru one little cloud meets the requirements of IFR, but it would be a real bummer to meet a 747 in the middle of that cloud. I do suspect that the FAA is going to want to have a talk with him tho...

The FAR's have a slightly different opinion of what VFR flight requirements are.
Nowhere here does it say you can fly through a cloud.

Sec. 91.155 Basic VFR weather minimums.

(a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section and Sec. 91.157, no
person may operate an aircraft under VFR when the flight visibility is less,
or at a distance from clouds that is less, than that prescribed for the
corresponding altitude and class of airspace in the following table:

Flight
Airspace visibility Distance from clouds

Class A Not Applicable Not Applicable.
Class B 3 statute miles Clear of Clouds.
Class C 3 statute miles 500 feet below.
1,000 feet above.
2,000 feet horizontal.
Class D 3 statute miles 500 feet below.
1,000 feet above.
2,000 feet horizontal.
Class E:
Less than 10,000 feet MSL 3 statute miles 500 feet below.
1,000 feet above.
2,000 feet horizontal
At or above 10,000 feet MSL 5 statute miles 1,000 feet below.
1,000 feet above.
1 statute mile horizontal.
Class G:
1,200 feet or less above the
surface (regardless of MSL
altitude)
Day, except as provided in Sec.
91.155(b) 1 statute mile Clear of clouds.
Night, except as provided in
Sec. 91.155(b) 3 statute miles 500 feet below.
1,000 feet above.
2,000 feet horizontal.
More than 1,200 feet above the
surface but less than 10,000
feet MSL
Day 1 statute mile 500 feet below.
1,000 feet above.
2,000 feet horizontal.
Night 3 statute miles 500 feet below.
1,000 feet above.
2,000 feet horizontal.
More than 1,200 feet above the
surface and at or above 10,000
feet MSL 5 statute miles 1,000 feet below.
1,000 feet above.
1 statute mile horizontal.


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