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#99091 - 07/04/07 05:01 AM Everyday Carry Knives
CBTENGR Offline
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Registered: 06/13/07
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I carry a CRKT M16-10 on a daily basis and have a KA-BAR for my BOB. I am wondering if anyone has better ideas for either. I love the CRKT for its size and everyday capabilities, and the KA-BAR for its ruggedness, but am looking for other products that might be available (better). Thanks.
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#99095 - 07/04/07 05:56 AM Re: Everyday Carry Knives [Re: CBTENGR]
ironraven Offline
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Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
Are there better? Yes. How much do you want to spend? I won't comment on the CRKT becuase I just like how it feels in my hand, but the Ka-bars I will comment on becuase I grew up on them the same way some people grew on a particular brand of bicycle.

You can find better in it's size class. Lots of custom knife makers do better. But IMHO, it isn't enough better than a $50 Ka-Bar to justify a two, three, more-hundred dollar knife. The only place were you can really find improvement is the tip strength, but if you have a can opener you're fine.

Unless you have to take out an ent who is on sentry duty. smile In which case, I want a bigger knife. (Actually, in that case I want a chainsaw powered by a sound supressed V-6 engine!) Most people who sneer at Ka-Bars are compairing them to bigger and thicker knives. Yes, things like the big RATs and Beckers and Busses out perform a 7" long, 3/16" blade when used for chopping. That is becuase they are 9-10" long, 1/4" thick blades. That's just simple newtonian physics at play.

Oh, and I should warn you, this is the ultimate can of worms in any forum. Asking men why they pick their knife is like asking why they love their wife and to compare her to their friends' wives. People get very culty about their knives.
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#99097 - 07/04/07 06:01 AM Re: Everyday Carry Knives [Re: CBTENGR]
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
You could do better on both. But then we all could on probably half our junk, er valuable survival kit. More importantly, you could do a LOT worse. Of even more importance, have you covered the basics in the other kit needs? If so, then, and only then you should think of some supplemental cutlery. It would help to know your personal scenarios for emergency use too. That said, lets look at your blades. The K Bar is condemned by many as to big for a carry knife, and not big enough for a serious heavy blade @ 7" long.And the pommel is to small for serious hammering, the leather grips not grippy enough, the rattail tang can snap and it has a double guard.Good points: It has a charisma that is a serious ego booster and costs on average $50. It's easy to sharpen and big enough to use as a draw knife for woodcraft. My K- Bar is getting old and beat up like me. The solution is to go a little slower and think. Do I have to wack a billet of wood in half like King Richard and his lousy Anvil? Maybe the more productive method of slicing edge pieces off or just making shims is better. Now your CRKT.It is a hollowground tanto with serrated teeth. Oh the horror! You've broken every rule. But you state " you love it" so it must be doing something right. Again At @ $50 you can do much worse. Additions? You need a knife with a upswept point for making feather sticks for that most critical task of firemaking. Drumroll and rotten tomatos thrown from the forum gallery--- www.ragweedforge.com and invest $10 on a Mora give or take a $1 depending on what tickles your fancy. And now the most critical question, Do you have the tools and knowledge to keep your cutlery sharp and in good order?

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#99101 - 07/04/07 11:44 AM Re: Everyday Carry Knives [Re: CBTENGR]
Frankie Offline
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Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
I started carrying a Spyderco Delica everyday (but now I may buy the rather expensive Triangle Sharpmaker, but it has a cool DVD in the package...) but this knife is a urban utility knife that will probably never have to shave wood.

As for the BOB knife, the Ka-Bar is basically a fighting knife with guard to stop the other knife in a combat. Do as Chris K. says and get a wide bevel sabre ground 10 bucks Mora knife, wet and dry sandpaper sticked on a board with carpet tape, a spare kitchen ceramic tile for a hone and your leather belt for stropping. And you're done!

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#99103 - 07/04/07 12:34 PM Re: Everyday Carry Knives [Re: Frankie]
benjammin Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 4020
Loc: Anchorage AK
Better is a relative term, and as the others have already stated, it is really a question of what you feel your needs are in the way of knife use. I am certain that there are knives out there more suited to specific tasks than what you have, and likewise yours may be ideal for a given situation as well. We are quickly coming to a forum caveat on knives, which I will try to recite here:

The best knife is the one you happen to have on you at the time, whatever that may be.

I guess you could call that a caveat, or maybe an altruism, or who knows what you'd call it. The point is that you are at least carrying a knife on you that you are confident with using, and that is 99% of the objective to be as prepared as humanly possible. Right now I have two knives on me and one in my shoulder bag within arm's reach. I am confident that I can use any of these knives to survive with, the big Swamp Rat knife if I have to bushwhack, make firewood, or lop heads, the KA-BAR Mule if I need a good all around service folder, and the little itty bitty SAK classic if I need to whittle up a firestick or perform field surgery. Each is more suited to a given range of tasks than the others, but I can get by with any one of them in a pinch, as with any other knife I might carry. It may be a stretch to think that I am going to defend myself with that little itty bitty knife, or to pull a sliver outta my finger with that big brute, but that's where innovation and human ingenuity come in. It is of far greater importance to be able to figure out a solution with what is at hand rather than to fantasize about what may be ideal, or at least better than what we have in our hand at the time. One method will serve you well in survival situations, the other will end up as regrets as you go down for the third time.

We've had an abundance of fairly generic interrogatives about "what is better" for any given category of equipment. Looking to upgrade is always going to be a part of preparedness, but it would help if folks would have in mind some particulars about what exactly it is they seek to improve on from what they have; they're likely to get a more meaningful and less argumentative response. In fact, asking such a question anymore seems like a setup, in which you will see such responses as what Chris and Ironraven put up there; good responses both, but very qualified and just a hint of defensive maybe.

CBTENGR, can you elaborate on what it is you are looking to improve upon, or may think could use some improvement from what you have now? That would help quite a bit.
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#99110 - 07/04/07 02:54 PM Re: Everyday Carry Knives [Re: Chris Kavanaugh]
Coastie09 Offline
I didn't float test my chipping hammer, honest Chief!

Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 104
Loc: Connecticut
Well said chris, well said. Like I mentioned in my other thread, everyone needs to realize that, yes we could always do better (often at considerable expense); but we are no worse off with whatever (quality) gear we might have.

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#99112 - 07/04/07 03:17 PM Re: Everyday Carry Knives [Re: CBTENGR]
Stretch Offline
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Registered: 11/27/06
Posts: 707
Loc: Alamogordo, NM
Unless you're just looking to buy another or more knives, the Kabar is fine. The CRKT, like Chris said (you broke every rule with the tanto tip and serrations!! :D) could be replaced. You wouldn't have to get rid of the CRKT you like so much, just think about a standard drop-point plain-edge maybe...no serrations.

Now, on the other hand, if you're looking to buy another knife............................ hehe that's a whole 'nother thread.
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#99116 - 07/04/07 04:06 PM Re: Everyday Carry Knives [Re: benjammin]
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5357
Loc: SOCAL
KaBar is a good knife, there are better but as others have said, they cost more. I'm not a fan of CRKT, if you like it that's fine. I prefer Benchmade such as Doug Ritter's RSK Mk1. Since the RSK Mk1 was released, Benchmade upgraded the parent Griptilian's blade steel to 154CM, another good knife. Lots of good Benchmade knives.
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#99198 - 07/05/07 10:28 PM Re: Everyday Carry Knives [Re: Russ]
harrkev Offline
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Registered: 09/05/01
Posts: 384
Loc: Colorado Springs, CO
Not to hijack the thread, but I am hijacking the thread. Everybody discuss serrations, and nobody gets hurt.

Why are combo blades (half straight, half serrations) so bad? You have a bit of curve on the front for delicate slicing, and you have serrations on the back for tougher jobs on fiberous material? This certainly seems like a compromise, but I would bet that I could cut through a seatbelt (or a tough vine, or leather) much faster with the average combo blade than I could with the average plain blade.

Note that by "average" I mean of average sharpness. Of course, you can make a blade razor-sharp, but how long will it stay that sharp once you start using it?
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#99200 - 07/05/07 10:48 PM Re: Everyday Carry Knives [Re: harrkev]
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5357
Loc: SOCAL
There are folks who take a few passes on a coarse stone to put fine serrations on a plain edge. My serrated blades (truck console for those very rare but critical situations) are fully serrated, no combo blades.
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