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#98629 - 06/28/07 04:42 AM Emergency Kit Article worth reading:
alvacado Offline


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Loc: South Texas
A lot of discussion on another forum based on an article titled "What Should I know about Backcountry Emergency Kits?" found on traditionialmountaineering.org. I don't know how to post the link or I would.
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#98631 - 06/28/07 05:10 AM Re: Emergency Kit Article worth reading: [Re: alvacado]
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Interesting sales approach.

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#98641 - 06/28/07 08:22 AM Re: Emergency Kit Article worth reading: [Re: alvacado]
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#98654 - 06/28/07 03:10 PM Re: Emergency Kit Article worth reading: [Re: alvacado]
KevinB Offline
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The Mountaineers "Ten Essentials System" is virtually identical to the Sierra Club's "Ten Essentials" we learned in their Basic Mountaineering Course. It pretty much covers all the bases. We always added the Eleventh Essential - Toilet Paper. Not truly essential, but very handy.

Kevin B.

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#98659 - 06/28/07 03:52 PM Re: Emergency Kit Article worth reading: [Re: KevinB]
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Interesting and thought-provoking.

I find myself wondering if the term "emergency kit" does promote a false sense of security. Maybe it's worth thinking about preparedness in terms of "essentials" for leaving your house or your car or whatever, with the simple goal of being reasonably well equipped for the weather, terrain, and prevailing local conditions, emergency or otherwise. Rather than a sealed and seldom-used PSK, have a familiar and often-used assortment of "useful stuff" (essentials).

It dovetails nicely with the often-repeated topic on this and other forums of being familiar with your gear and practicing your skills in non-emergency situations, so that when the emergency comes you avoid many of the "what the heck do I do now?" moments.


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#98663 - 06/28/07 04:46 PM Re: Emergency Kit Article worth reading: [Re: KevinB]
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While I think their list isn't too bad, I have to wonder about somebody who comes up with a "10 Essentials" list that has over 20 items on it like this one does. Slipping the word "System" in there really isn't all that clever. I'll bet somebody could come up with a "5 Essentials System" list that weighs 25 lbs. Oh wait, that's my BOB. grin

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#98665 - 06/28/07 05:09 PM Re: Emergency Kit Article worth reading: [Re: norad45]
Russ Offline
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The 10 essentials list has been adjusted over the years. The basis of the list is good though. Add and delete as you wish, but know why you do.
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#98666 - 06/28/07 05:12 PM Re: Emergency Kit Article worth reading: [Re: Russ]
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Any list has two advantages -- one, its a list. You can look at it and see the stuff. Two it will make you either agree or disagee with the items -- which gets you thinking. TP is a great add!

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#98670 - 06/28/07 05:32 PM Re: Emergency Kit Article worth reading: [Re: norad45]
KevinB Offline
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Originally Posted By: norad45
While I think their list isn't too bad, I have to wonder about somebody who comes up with a "10 Essentials" list that has over 20 items on it like this one does. Slipping the word "System" in there really isn't all that clever. I'll bet somebody could come up with a "5 Essentials System" list that weighs 25 lbs. Oh wait, that's my BOB. grin


What RAS said. The Sierra Club 10 Essentials are/were:

1. Map
2. Compass
3. Flashlight
4. Sunglasses
5. Extra food and water
6. Extra clothing
7. Waterproof matches
8. Candle
9. Pocketknife
10. First aid kit

Why sunglasses but not a hat or sunscreen? If you carry a flashlight shouldn't you also have extra bulbs and batteries? Why are food and water one item? Wouldn't a Bic be better than waterproof matches? A candle really isn't the best firestarter. And why are matches/candle two items while food/water are one? Why a pocketknife instead of a fixed blade or a multitool?

You see my point. Everyone customizes the 10 essentials according to their needs and preferences. The list isn't written on stone. It's just a tool to get you thinking in terms of navigation, protection from the elements, emergencies, etc.

A lot of people would never leave the house without a GPS, PLB, signal mirror, fishing kit, water purification system, etc. That's all fine and dandy. But if you literally had just the 10 items on the list you'd probably be in pretty good shape.

Kevin B.

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#98680 - 06/28/07 06:29 PM Re: Emergency Kit Article worth reading: [Re: KevinB]
Russ Offline
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Originally Posted By: KevinB
The Sierra Club 10 Essentials are/were:

1. Map
2. Compass
3. Flashlight
4. Sunglasses
5. Extra food and water
6. Extra clothing
7. Waterproof matches
8. Candle
9. Pocketknife
10. First aid kit
Another version of the list as mentioned in the article is:
1. Navigation
2. Sun Protection
3. Insulation (extra clothing)
4. Illumination
5. First-Aid Supplies
6. Fire
7. Repair Kit and Tools
8. Nutrition (extra food)
9. Hydration (extra water)
10. Emergency Shelter

This list is more general and a bit easier to modify. The pocketknife in the first list would just be one of the Repair Kit and Tools of the second list. I don't understand why they separated Extra food and water in the first list to two items in the second -- probably seemed like a good idea at the time. Use either list, modify as your situation dictates, but don't drop something on the premise that you'll borrow from Peter.
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