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#98530 - 06/27/07 06:50 AM Transporting camping fuel in planes
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Does anyone know if it is OK to transport camping fuel in checked luggage? I am talking about the MSR threaded top bottles.


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#98531 - 06/27/07 07:38 AM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: redflare]
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TSA will have you stuffed, cuffed, AND labeled as a Terrorist, so fast it will make your head spin. IMHO, if you try to take those with you whether they are filled OR if they have held fuel in them before!
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#98532 - 06/27/07 07:55 AM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: wildman800]
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Even in checked luggage?

What am I supposed to do? I am going on a camping trip and need to take a stove with me.

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#98533 - 06/27/07 08:16 AM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: redflare]
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1) I would suggest you contact TSA and get the facts. I think, based on a experience I had in 1999, when I declared an expended 76mm naval rifle shell upon checking in my baggage, its against FAA rules.

2) How about grabbing a sterno stove and sterno for this trip after you land??? Or some other cheap cook stove.
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#98537 - 06/27/07 08:50 AM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: wildman800]
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Yep, you are right.

All fuels are prohibited by TSA
I guess I will just bring empty MSR containers and my stove and buy fuel at the destination.

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#98542 - 06/27/07 12:29 PM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: redflare]
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Though I much prefer using Coleman fueled stoves, I suppose if you're going to travel via airlines, the canister-fuels have an advantage in that you don't have to bring an "empty" fuel container on the plane with you.

Unfortunately you'll need to do some research prior to your trip to confirm a source of your specific kind of fuel at your final destination.

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#98552 - 06/27/07 03:47 PM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: redflare]
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Plan on buying your fuel at your destination. No fuel is ok on planes. Don't be suprised if your stove and fuel bottles have problems too. Fuel bottles like those MRS are on display at the airport as prohibited; even if there is any evidence of fuel left in the bottle they will take them. Many people have had problems with stoves as well.

Where are you headed
? You may want to UPS your stove and fuel to yourself at your destination or use whatever cooking system is available when you get there.


Edited by billym (06/27/07 05:19 PM)

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#98555 - 06/27/07 04:33 PM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: redflare]
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I'm afraid you cannot carry any fuel on board, but you should be able to carry a new empty fuel bottle and purchase your fuel at your destination, either paraffin, diesel, white gas etc.
The problem with the bottle is the red colour and the warning signs saying flammable and danger etc. Just get a Sigg neoprene water bottle cover. It says Sigg on the side and most will think it is a just a camping water bottle. You will of course have to show that it is empty. If it comes down to the empty fuel bottle being confiscated you could always have a backup Sigg water bottle to act as an emergency fuel bottle. But this only works if you are using something like a Primus Stove Pump as this will fit the threads on a Sigg water bottle (MSR has a different thread). If both bottles are confiscated then it may be useful to carry some gas adapters such as the gasmate adapter, the Markill Campingaz Adapter and the and 6.3oz Markill Pierceable gas cartridge adapters shown below



Gasmate adapter.



Markill Campingaz Adapter



6.3oz Markill Pierceable gas

By carrying these adapters it would allow you to use the majority of gas canister types available at your destination with a Primus Omnifuel Stove.

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#98598 - 06/27/07 11:04 PM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: redflare]
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It's illegal to tender for carry any HazMat in your luggage. Signage is all over the place at check-in counters etc. If TSA finds it in your checked bags they'll play hell with you.

Purchase new "unused" fuel bottles to carry in your bag. Old "used" ones can still have a trace (smell) of old fuel. TSA will frown on that too.

Get whatever fuel you need at destination. Plan on either shipping the empty fuel bottles back to yourself via UPS/FedEx or just giving them away before you get back on the plane for the trip home.

Follow this advise, and you'll be fine and avoid trouble with the TSA (Thousands Standing Around).


Edited by 91gdub (06/27/07 11:04 PM)
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#98603 - 06/27/07 11:30 PM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: billym]
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Originally Posted By: billym


Where are you headed
? You may want to UPS your stove and fuel to yourself at your destination or use whatever cooking system is available when you get there.


Going to Rocky Mountains NP.
How would I UPS them to myself? I have never done this.

Thanks

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#98612 - 06/28/07 01:53 AM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: redflare]
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No you can't pack fuel of any sort. Buy it at your destination -- so much easier.


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#98615 - 06/28/07 02:37 AM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: redflare]
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Not only is it a no-no as others have pointed out, I'd sum it up as unwise to boot. Between pressure changes, vibration, and the general way checked baggage is handled, I'd be concerned about the screw top unscrewing.

It might keep the bugs away, but I'd rather not smell like I bathed in stove fuel. smile
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#98619 - 06/28/07 02:56 AM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: redflare]
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"How would I UPS them to myself?"

Go here https://www.ups.com/forms/e-mail/shipping?loc=en_US
and ask.

If you're going to a particular hotel or a friend's home, have it sent there. But tell them what you're doing.

Sue

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#98637 - 06/28/07 06:05 AM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: redflare]
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Originally Posted By: redflare
Does anyone know if it is OK to transport camping fuel in checked luggage? I am talking about the MSR threaded top bottles.


Whoa!

Do NOT take any fuel on board an airplane in checked luggage or otherwise.

In fact, let me know what flight you were going to be on so I can stay away.

I'm a pilot and I'd have you tossed off the flight in an instant, TSA or no.

At altitude, in an unpressurized or low-pressure cargo hold, there's a good chance the fuel would leak out. One spark, and BOOM.

Please don't even think about doing it. Buy fuel at your destination.

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#98638 - 06/28/07 06:31 AM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: bmisf]
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Originally Posted By: bmisf

Whoa!

Do NOT take any fuel on board an airplane in checked luggage or otherwise.

In fact, let me know what flight you were going to be on so I can stay away.

I'm a pilot and I'd have you tossed off the flight in an instant, TSA or no.

At altitude, in an unpressurized or low-pressure cargo hold, there's a good chance the fuel would leak out. One spark, and BOOM.

Please don't even think about doing it. Buy fuel at your destination.


<Peeking out>
I think I will buy fuel at the destination blush sick

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#98648 - 06/28/07 02:11 PM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: redflare]
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ACK! NO NO NO NO NO NO and NO!

You're talking serious crime here....way serious, even before 9/11 it was a crime.

This page is what you need to study.


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#98661 - 06/28/07 04:22 PM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: redflare]
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I would either mail it to a local post office or a hotel / campground you are staying at. It think there is a new thread about this.

But if you are going to RMNP there are lots of outdoor stores in Denver and Boulder including several REI stores. Buy a stove and the mail it home when you are done.

Have fun! Are you going to head up Long's Peak?

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#98662 - 06/28/07 04:26 PM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: redflare]
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An alternative would be to buy two cans of brew or soda, plus a bottle of yellow HEAT at your destination, drink the brews, make an alcohol stove from the cans, use the HEAT for fuel, and you are done. Toss everything before your flight back home...
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#98709 - 06/28/07 09:19 PM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: redflare]
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Yes, you too can have an all expenses paid (by your Uncle Sam) vacation for an undetermined length of stay at CLUB GTMO.*

*all you have to do is act terminally stupid at an airport near you!!
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#98722 - 06/28/07 10:13 PM Re: Transporting camping fuel in planes [Re: billym]
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Originally Posted By: billym

Have fun! Are you going to head up Long's Peak?

Yes, we will attempt Longs Peak. We are hoping to do the entire Longs Peak in one day. I'll report back once we are done.

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