#97277 - 06/12/07 04:48 PM
Heat-tolerant pen
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 2485
Loc: California
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I'm tired of reaching for a ball point pen from the glove compartment of my car and finding it all dried out. I do keep pencils, too, just in case. In fact, I had to ditch a dried pen and use the pencil just a few months ago to take down some info when someone bumped me from behind in my car. I'd really like to find a pen that can tolerate the high temps inside a car for long periods of time. Has anyone found a pen that can take the heat of being a car pen in a sunny climate?
Practically speaking, it's probably the most cost effective to just get into the habit of replacing the disposable pen every X months. They're so cheap. But I'm curious if there's a good pen out there that works for people.
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#97279 - 06/12/07 04:57 PM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
[Re: Arney]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 12/26/02
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I use these pilot razor points for that. They are a fine hard felt tip instead of a ball point so there is no ball for the ink to leak around. Sort of like a sharpie but with regular ink. Another option is to just edc a pen, I do that because I hate to write with the cheapies the office provides which usually leave spotty lines.
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#97281 - 06/12/07 05:14 PM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
[Re: Eugene]
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Loc: Anchorage AK
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A Sharpie ultra fine tip doesn't dry out unless you take the lid off and leave it off. I've had one in my pickup now for two years and it still works for me just fine. I don't do ball points when duration is a factor.
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#97288 - 06/12/07 06:20 PM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
[Re: benjammin]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 2485
Loc: California
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Sharpies or other felt tips, huh? That never really occurred to me. I guess I always felt like a "felt" type pen would dry out easier than a ball point pen, but I hadn't really thought of the cap being air tight enough to prevent that from happening. I'll give that one a try.
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#97297 - 06/12/07 07:14 PM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
[Re: Arney]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2997
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yes, the cap on the sharpie and felt tip pens is air tight and the felt tip is air tight as well, liquid has to flow though it by capiliary action. A regular ball point pen the cap isn't air tight (check the very top, usually there are air holes)
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#97301 - 06/12/07 08:30 PM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
[Re: Rio]
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Old Hand
Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 715
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
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+1 on the Fisher Space pen.
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#97309 - 06/12/07 10:23 PM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
[Re: Arney]
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Old Hand
Registered: 03/08/03
Posts: 1019
Loc: East Tennessee near Bristol
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Check out the Uni-ball Power Tanks. Power Tanks at Office Depot They are similar to the Fisher space pens in that they are pressure fed. It writes wet, cold & upside down. Cost is about $3 each. I use them for taking notes at work & in class & keep at least a three pack in the armrest or glovebox of the car. The retractable version is comfortable enough to get me through 4 1/2 hours of class notes or longer.
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#97312 - 06/12/07 11:22 PM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
[Re: UTAlumnus]
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I can also vouch for the fisher space pen, I know for a fact they will write upside down,underwater and in space and I have left them in my car for sometime and they always wrote. I had went down to office depo and bought a cross pen and put a fisher space pen refill in it of med black and that was what I used at work. Our company put a strong emphasis on these pens and that's how I got into them. Also we had a Sharpie got left in one of the shuttles years back and when it came home, it still wrote. Totally blew my mind with the Temperatures in the back plus the vacuum back there you would think it would dry it out. Anyhow if you take that pen and fill up a glass of water and put some cardboard at the bottom, try writing on the paper. It doesn't skip a beat. I would definitely recommend there cartage's whether you buy the whole pen or a different pen and use there cartage.
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#97406 - 06/13/07 10:25 PM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
[Re: Arney]
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Anonymous
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Hi Arney, The Fisher Space Pen has to be what you are looking for. After $12 million dollars development costs for the space race in the 1960s, it should be your patriotic duty to use one of these writing implements. Simply the most reliable and heat tolerant pen out there. A great American invention. Even I've got one.
Edited by bentirran (06/13/07 10:26 PM)
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#97407 - 06/13/07 10:39 PM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 2485
Loc: California
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A great American invention. Even I've got one. Yee-haw! Something American that bentirran approves of! Actually, Falcon5000's idea of using the Fisher space pen refill in a different pen is a great idea. I was never too partial to the looks of the space pen, so this idea lets me have my cake and eat it, too.
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#97414 - 06/14/07 12:55 AM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
[Re: falcon5000]
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Old Hand
Registered: 03/08/03
Posts: 1019
Loc: East Tennessee near Bristol
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These aren't using the Fisher refills. They're from the same company that makes the Sharpies. These claim to write under similar conditions and have a smoother line. The Fisher cartridges can smear a little after writing. The Uni-balls are dry within seconds. They developed a system to get similar performance at half the price. IIRC the Fisher refills are about $5 each.
Edit I don't know about the top end of the heat range but they work at car in afternoon sun temperatures.
Edited by UTAlumnus (06/14/07 12:59 AM)
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#97480 - 06/14/07 06:33 PM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
[Re: UTAlumnus]
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Member
Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 170
Loc: TEXAS (where else?)
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+ 4 or 5 or whatever on the Fisher space pen. My problem with pens in the truck (in the middle of Texas) was not drying out. It was popping and the ink leaking everywhere. I even had a sharpie pop, so I wouldn't go that route. Then someone gave me a Fisher bullet pen for Christmas. I thought it was ugly and stuck it in my truck. Made a believer out of me. Still one ugly pen, but very reliable and tough. REI has a version that looks really nice. They have the Stowaway by Fisher for $8.00, and the Inka for 19.95. http://www.rei.com/search?vcat=REI_SEARCH&query=pen&x=0&y=0
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#97524 - 06/14/07 10:12 PM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
[Re: lukus]
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Pooh-Bah
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Posts: 2485
Loc: California
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REI has a version that looks really nice. They have the Stowaway by Fisher for $8.00, and the Inka for 19.95. Thanks lukus! That Fisher Stowaway seems like a great, inexpensive way to try out the Fisher. Actually, looking at Fisher's website, I now realize that Fisher makes a whole slew of "space pens" and not just the rounded, silver bullet style. And they make universal and brand-specific refills for other company's pens, too, so it's possible that I could turn my favorite pen into a Space Pen with just a refill change. Boy, I wish I knew this a long time ago!
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#97531 - 06/14/07 11:25 PM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
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Registered: 12/07/04
Posts: 530
Loc: Massachusetts
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The Fisher Space Pen has to be what you are looking for. After $12 million dollars development costs for the space race in the 1960s, it should be your patriotic duty to use one of these writing implements. Simply the most reliable and heat tolerant pen out there. A great American invention. Even I've got one. I remember reading about the contrast between the US and Soviet space programs a while back, and one of the things they mentioned was the space pen. Kinda funny, it went something like: "After millions in research on how to create something that astronauts could use and would write in zero G under widely varying pressures and temperatures, the Americans created the Space Pen, a marvel of writing technology...the Russians had the same problem to solve, their cosmonauts used a pencil."
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#97538 - 06/15/07 12:19 AM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
[Re: Be_Prepared]
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Registered: 06/11/07
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The Fisher Space Pen has to be what you are looking for. After $12 million dollars development costs for the space race in the 1960s, it should be your patriotic duty to use one of these writing implements. Simply the most reliable and heat tolerant pen out there. A great American invention. Even I've got one. I remember reading about the contrast between the US and Soviet space programs a while back, and one of the things they mentioned was the space pen. Kinda funny, it went something like: "After millions in research on how to create something that astronauts could use and would write in zero G under widely varying pressures and temperatures, the Americans created the Space Pen, a marvel of writing technology...the Russians had the same problem to solve, their cosmonauts used a pencil." I don't think the US space program actually developed the Space Pen, I believe the Fisher Company did that independently , going back to even before the space program, NASA just decided it was the best option. http://www.spacepen.ca/cdn-english/index2.htm Hit the history button. Also this old rumor is addressed and debunked on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher_space_pen In any case I believe pencils are not a good idea in space as the graphite dust will float around in zero gravity playing merry hell inside a capsule.
Edited by Hookpunch (06/15/07 12:37 AM)
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#97541 - 06/15/07 12:23 AM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
[Re: Arney]
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Member
Registered: 06/11/07
Posts: 128
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REI has a version that looks really nice. They have the Stowaway by Fisher for $8.00, and the Inka for 19.95. Thanks lukus! That Fisher Stowaway seems like a great, inexpensive way to try out the Fisher. Actually, looking at Fisher's website, I now realize that Fisher makes a whole slew of "space pens" and not just the rounded, silver bullet style. And they make universal and brand-specific refills for other company's pens, too, so it's possible that I could turn my favorite pen into a Space Pen with just a refill change. Boy, I wish I knew this a long time ago! I recommend the the variations on the police model if you don't mind a little larger pen... I gave a friend of mine one for his graduation from police college and he thinks its great, the rubberized barrel and large circumference makes it easy to hold in the cold and with his gloves on. As an aside and more relevant to this forum, those aspects would also make it ideal in a survival situation BTW: I carry one of these as EDC and have one in each car, they are relatively cheap so I don't mind so much if I lose them and dependable. http://cgi.ebay.ca/Fisher-Pen-Chrome-M4C...oQQcmdZViewItem
Edited by Hookpunch (06/15/07 12:44 AM)
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#97571 - 06/15/07 11:22 AM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
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Stranger
Registered: 02/24/07
Posts: 19
Loc: Summerville South Carolina
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The Fisher is a great pen. I own several and always have a bullet pen in my multitool pouch. However, I find that the PowerTank writes smoother, skips less, smears less than the Fisher. And, the whole pen costs about half of a Fisher refill. I have to do a lot of writing at work and keep a journal in the outdoors, for the last year the PowerTank has been my pen of choice. The only time I switch back to the Fisher is when the temperature drops below 20 degrees or so. At that point the PowerTank starts to clog up and skip. The cheapest place that I know of to buy the PowerTank is Sam's Club on line. They have them for $1.58 each.
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#97591 - 06/15/07 04:34 PM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
[Re: Chuck]
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Enthusiast
Registered: 09/05/01
Posts: 384
Loc: Colorado Springs, CO
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I like my Inka pen. My favorite thing it that it is very small, and fits on my keychain.
With a Fisher pen, that is "yet another thing" in your pocket. You have to rememner to transfer it when you change clothes.
My Inka is slightly more cumbersome to use, but I always have it and never have to think about it.
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#97592 - 06/15/07 05:00 PM
Re: Heat-tolerant pen
[Re: Chuck]
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Registered: 03/01/04
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I really like the FSP. It is the only choice for real Americans.
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