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#96069 - 05/30/07 04:17 PM Re: Summer Camping List. - Zippo Lighter [Re: ducktapeguy]
KenK Offline
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Pooh-Bah

Registered: 06/26/04
Posts: 2211
Loc: NE Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: ducktapeguy
Headlamp? If you plan on doing anything after the sun goes down, you'll want one.


That was my first thought. I'd dump the Surefire and go with a good headlamp and maybe the Photon or Arc AAA (but not both) as a backup.

Map of area
GPS
UTM grid
Eating gear - spoon, cup
Bandana (towel, filter, sponge, fly swatter, ...)
Hat w/ brim

I'm not a fan of 100% DEET. DEET is bad enough, but the 100% stuff is real nasty. Keep it away from your compasses! I like the stuff 3M has out now. I also tried the newer Cutter Advanced non-DEET stuff last summer, but have yet to really get sold on it - the jury is still out on that.


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#96070 - 05/30/07 04:25 PM Re: Summer Camping List. am I missing anything [Re: PaleHorse]
KarenRei Offline
Newbie

Registered: 05/29/07
Posts: 28
Where's your raingear? You'd be pretty miserable if it starts raining and you don't have any smile Of course, I hardly see any clothes at all there. Surely you want at least a backup pair of socks; wet socks are pretty miserable to hike in and encourage disease. Actually, two pair, since proper hiking footwear is a good pair of boots, a thick outer layer of socks, and a thin inner layer.

Don't see any cutlery in the list. A titanium spork is usually a good general purpose eating utensil. smile

What's your water storage? I'm a big fan of water bladders myself.

A few optionals if you don't mind the extra weight/space (since you're taking a hammock, I'm assuming it's not too critical):

* A lightweight collapsible chair; not having to sit on the ground all the time can be nice.
* A daypack. Especially useful if you have a dry camp and need to make trips for water.

Out of curiosity --seeing your mention of deet bug repellant: has anyone tried catnip oil-based repellants? I read a study from Iowa State last year in which they determined that the essential oil of catnip is a 10 times more powerful mosquito repellant than deet. I ordered a vial of the essential oil and plan to dilute it and give it a try, but if anyone has any experience, I'd like to hear about it.


Edited by KarenRei (05/30/07 04:28 PM)

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#96076 - 05/30/07 04:32 PM Re: Summer Camping List. - Zippo Lighter [Re: NightHiker]
PaleHorse Offline
Newbie

Registered: 05/03/07
Posts: 27
Nic

sorry did not see the hennessy question,

is on order and have not used it yet, will let you know when I do

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#96078 - 05/30/07 05:20 PM Re: Summer Camping List. - Zippo Lighter [Re: PaleHorse]
PaleHorse Offline
Newbie

Registered: 05/03/07
Posts: 27
Thanks Billym

I never have been a big fan of Bic, thoughts in the back of my mind allway come up with crushing it in a fall.

Thanks KenK

Added my e-lit to the list, but i love the lite my G2 puts out with p60 or p61 bulb

Map and case with protrator and water pens

I dont like the deet my self, ill have to look in to catnip oil


Thanks KarenRei

Did not list Clothing but have added to list the list

Clothing
Scarpa Boots
2 pair smartwool med cushion Socks
2 pair polypro shocks
Tad cargo pants
Riggers belt
Long sleeve under armor
Montane Jetstream
Bandana
Hat




I did not list my Ti spork that is in my trek 700

there is a 100oz MSR Hydromedary in my RT45

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#96081 - 05/30/07 05:23 PM Re: Summer Camping List. - Zippo Lighter [Re: NightHiker]
teacher Offline
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Registered: 12/14/05
Posts: 988
Would you consider packing an 18 mile grms radio? Might be very useful if you're hiking alone.

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#96084 - 05/30/07 05:44 PM Re: Hennessey [Re: PaleHorse]
Nicodemus Offline
Paranoid?
Veteran

Registered: 10/30/05
Posts: 1341
Loc: Virginia, US
I'd love to hearhow the Hennessey worked when you get back.

Thanks!
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#96085 - 05/30/07 05:46 PM Re: Summer Camping List. - Zippo Lighter [Re: PaleHorse]
KarenRei Offline
Newbie

Registered: 05/29/07
Posts: 28
Here's an article on the study on catnip vs. mosquitoes, in case you're curious:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/08/010828075659.htm

Deet sprays are usually 5-25% deet, so that would mean 0.5%-2.5% catnip for the same effect. I'm planning to try out 5% in two solutions -- one with sunscreen as a base for a dual-purpose cream, and one with acetone as a base for a spray. I've also heard of using coconut oil as a base.

If you really despised mosquitoes, you could use 100%, but that'd get pricey unless you crew your own catnip in bulk wink The pure oil is like $20 an ounce unless you buy in bulk. At the strength of a 25% deet spray, though, it only works out to 50 cents per ounce of repellant, which is affordable. Buy in bulk, and it's even cheaper.

I'll let people know how my results go when I get the oil. I'll also have to see how badly I get mobbed by cats wink


Edited by KarenRei (05/30/07 05:50 PM)

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#96090 - 05/30/07 06:22 PM Re: Summer Camping List. am I missing anything [Re: PaleHorse]
philip Offline
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Registered: 09/19/05
Posts: 639
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
A partial list of my summer camping needs is at
http://www.cieux.com/bm/things.html
with links at the bottom to more lists and more complete lists.

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#96105 - 05/30/07 08:13 PM Re: Summer Camping List. am I missing anything [Re: PaleHorse]
KevinB Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 08/17/06
Posts: 91
Looks pretty good, other than the couple of things other people have mentioned (map, rain gear, etc.)

I usually start with the "Ten Essentials" and work from there.

Map
Compass
Flashlight
Sunglasses
Extra food and water
Extra clothing
Matches (or lighter)
Fire starter (tinder)
FAK
Knife

TP is 11. A hat is 12. You'll really need a pencil if you're navigating with a map and compass. You didn't list the contents of your FAK, but I always make sure I have Imodium and an Ace bandage. And lots of Advil. I'm an old man.

I live in the Southwest, and sometimes hike above the tree line, where there are no handy trees for hammocks. I prefer a sleeping pad. Though I have used a hammock, and they are comfy if nature cooperates.

Kevin B.

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#96128 - 05/31/07 12:39 AM Re: Summer Camping List. am I missing anything [Re: PaleHorse]
Anonymous
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Have you considered trekking poles?. There is no rain gear i.e mvp poncho or rain suit. Would you consider taking a folding Thermarest if the hammock doesn't work out or there is no suitable areas to rig up the hammock i.e no trees suitable. For an extra 450 grams, you could have much more flexibility where you camp. You could then use the trekking poles to rig up a shelter with the rain fly.

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