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#95557 - 05/25/07 04:03 AM Re: Changes in Latitude; time for a BOB change [Re: ironraven]
Blast Offline
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A long range bug out is not like hiking the AT or PT. I wouldn't think of bugging out 50 miles without carrying a decent bit driver, real wire cutters, and maybe a pair of small channel locks along with my Leatherman, pocket bar and pocket knife, if for nothing other than scrounging.


Wildman's cresent wrench was a "D'oh!" moment for me. In normal life I'm a big scrounger/jury-rigger. I even keep an extensive tool kit including fencing pliers in my car. But when I go hiking I only bring my LM Wave (plus 3-4 other knives whistle). In the past I figured if I was trying to walk 1000 miles home from a job site I'd have the Leatherman but didn't give much thought to other tools. These comments reminded me I can hack MAN-MADE products into useful stuff too. I don't have to go the cave-man route. Funny how a person can develop tunnel vision. I've spent so much time learning to live in the woods I forgot mankind has some usable stuff laying around. D'oh! blush

-Blast, who is going to the hardware store tomorrow.
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#95561 - 05/25/07 04:38 AM Re: Changes in Latitude; time for a BOB change [Re: Blast]
ironraven Offline
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Oh dear. What have I compelled you to add to your gear now? And how annoyed is your DW with me for it? smile
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#95570 - 05/25/07 08:35 AM On the money concerning storage space [Re: ironraven]
wildman800 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 2851
Loc: La-USA
Thanks Ironraven, for putting my situation into words (which I just couldn't seem to get accomplshed); like Blast pointed out, "tunnel vision", is easy to acquire and difficult to recognize!!

Hey Blast, Lack of imagination is what limits you from using a piece of equipment to accomplish things that the inventor never dreamed of. Turning a lawnmower blade into a machete or a prybar, etc. Using a shovel to dig an animal trap pit.

Yes, personal space on a boat is "extremely limited" and has posed additional limitations on "available options". I am cutting down on both; what I can do without, but also not carrying those items that I can grab from the boat, prior to leaving, which reduces the weight and bulk that I carry from boat to boat and that which I have to store while on every boat.

In an earlier post, I had mentioned that I'm going to smaller containers for my supplements in order to reduce weight and bulk (stored air?). One poster felt that I should not carry all those supplementals. He should confirm that when he has reached 49 years of age with 80+ years of mileage on his body. These are benign means to keep me functioning as well as possible. Remember, "you're never the same after being shot in the head!"

I go home on the 30th for 4 days and will put this kit together and carry it in a separate (parachute) bag to my next boat. I go home again on the 19th of June and I "might" get the chance to get into the woods for a couple of days of hiking and camping to test this idea out under field conditions. I'll post my results on both stages of implementation.

Again, My sincere thanks to everyone for their valuable input. We should start referring to ourselves as "Tunnel Vision Busters"
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#95577 - 05/25/07 01:11 PM Re: Changes in Latitude; time for a BOB change [Re: ironraven]
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What have I compelled you to add to your gear now? And how annoyed is your DW with me for it?


DW and I have a deal, I can buy what I want and claim it's a birthday present from her. According to DW's records, I'm currently 104 years old... grin

So, I always have my LM Wave and a SAK "Tinker". What other tools? I'm thinking
1. cresent wrench
2. small pry bar (maybe 6" long)
3. metal hacksaw?
4. ?

-Blast
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#95627 - 05/25/07 10:07 PM Re: Changes in Latitude; time for a BOB change [Re: wildman800]
DougM Offline
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Registered: 11/03/06
Posts: 48
Do NOT follow the example of the Confederate Infantry, they were very poorly equipped (esp. toward the end), but rather follow the backpackers, get yourself a comfortable back of not less than 4000 cubic inch capacity(yes you will need "all that space").
As for food,I personally think that you shouldn't attempt to use modern (store bought) jerky as a FOOD source (far too much salt and spice for constant use, slim jims are about the same (if you mean the small snack sausages) and boullion cubes have no calories at all, therefore, I would suggest trying to find bulk marzipan (comes in 7.5 ounce plastic tubes and has a very long shelf life).


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#95628 - 05/25/07 10:29 PM Re: Changes in Latitude; time for a BOB change [Re: DougM]
teacher Offline
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Registered: 12/14/05
Posts: 988
Why are you thinking about hiking that distance? it would be much easier to bike or row...

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#95661 - 05/26/07 05:00 AM Re: Changes in Latitude; time for a BOB change [Re: teacher]
wildman800 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/06
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Loc: La-USA
I plan on those assets and capabilities that I KNOW that I will have. All other possibilities are options that may or may not be available. You'd be surprised at what options (equipment) you may come across, but don't count on what isn't in your hand, right now.
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#96369 - 06/01/07 08:47 PM Re: Changes in Latitude; time for a BOB change [Re: wildman800]
wildman800 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 2851
Loc: La-USA
By reducing excess bulk storage, duplicative items, and reduced excessive quantities, as well as "nice-to-have" stuff, my BoB weight is now down to 30LBS.

My thanks to all who have contributed suggestions and constructive criticism. As you can tell from the paragraph above, I am listening.
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#96393 - 06/02/07 02:32 AM Re: Changes in Latitude; time for a BOB change [Re: wildman800]
MDinana Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 2208
Loc: Beer&Cheese country
Good job! Much more manageable... and your legs will thank you after a long day's walk!

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#96395 - 06/02/07 02:38 AM Re: Changes in Latitude; time for a BOB change [Re: wildman800]
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Registered: 09/08/05
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Loc: Vermont
What is your final inventory, do you know yet?
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