I've read this thread and I have a suggestion. Ziggy, why don't you all just go backpacking? Take a class at the local outdoors store, get some appropriate equipment and just enjoy the outdoors. Thats plenty challenging enough for some folks who "don't know that much about the wilderness or the forest in general." You will find a lot of support for that endeavor in this forum and lots of ideas for improving your safety and comfort. Just a thought.