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#94685 - 05/15/07 05:13 AM Re: Do you guys wash hands often enough? [Re: Alex]
ironraven Offline
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Loc: Vermont
That statement has more holes in it that a block of swiss cheese on a rifle range. smile No evidence to support it- you still get exposed to germs, but not in the numbers. An uncompromised immune system doesn't roll over and die before a few score of something, you need a LOT of it. So if you've killed 90% of the germs, your body can smack the other 10% around if they get through your skin and then it will remember what that germ looked like in case it's kin come a calling. (Jeez, that sounds redneck.)

Use of the antibacterials making germs tougher DOES have evidence; that's why I have plain old Ivory. The lye will kill enough.
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#94692 - 05/15/07 12:17 PM Re: Do you guys wash hands often enough? [Re: Alex]
Eugene Offline
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Registered: 12/26/02
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Its not the act of washing, its washing with all the anti-bacteria soap. I remember that study being on the news, all the anti-bacteria soap kills the good bacteria and prevents you from building up resistance to the bad.

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#94693 - 05/15/07 12:27 PM Re: Do you guys wash hands often enough? [Re: Eugene]
Frankie Offline
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Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Actually antibacterial soap is good for one time emergency use and it's not a bad idea to include this item in a survival kit. But for an EDS (everyday soap) it's better to use regular soap.

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#94719 - 05/15/07 04:10 PM Re: Do you guys wash hands often enough? [Re: picard120]
CANOEDOGS Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 1853
Loc: MINNESOTA

i used to work in a hospital and washed my hands all the
time..i got in the habit and still do..at work i would
wipe my keyboard,phone and desktop with alcohol pads when starting my shift..
after dealing with people who had any kind of URI i would
do the same thing and not use any pens i lent them..i went
many winters without picking up any kind of cold..
same on camping trips..i make sure my hands--if nothing else
are clean..

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#94737 - 05/15/07 10:34 PM Re: Do you guys wash hands often enough? [Re: ironraven]
picard120 Offline
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Registered: 07/10/05
Posts: 763
Originally Posted By: ironraven
That statement has more holes in it that a block of swiss cheese on a rifle range. smile No evidence to support it- you still get exposed to germs, but not in the numbers. An uncompromised immune system doesn't roll over and die before a few score of something, you need a LOT of it. So if you've killed 90% of the germs, your body can smack the other 10% around if they get through your skin and then it will remember what that germ looked like in case it's kin come a calling. (Jeez, that sounds redneck.)

Use of the antibacterials making germs tougher DOES have evidence; that's why I have plain old Ivory. The lye will kill enough.


you are right. Does ivory make your hand skin softer like a baby? grin

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#95015 - 05/18/07 04:41 PM Re: Do you guys wash hands often enough? [Re: picard120]
brandtb Offline
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Registered: 11/26/04
Posts: 514
Loc: S.E. Pennsylvania
It's just as important to wash them correctly - long enough (whistle a chorus of Yankee Doodle, which takes about 20 seconds), and in as hot water as you can take, and on the backs and between the fingers.
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#95054 - 05/19/07 09:48 AM Re: Do you guys wash hands often enough? [Re: brandtb]
Frankie Offline
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Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
I agree, except for the hot water. You don't have to scald yourself. Hot enough water to kill the bacteria would also harm your skin. The idea is to lather well so that the bacteria are dissolved then washed away by the running water, not really killed.

And another thing to not overlook is to change regularly dish towels and hand towels and launder them in hot water and bleach (that will kill the germs).

Frankie

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